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Lindsay Lohan
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Topic: Pain Of Salvation Posted: June 09 2005 at 15:59 |
Hmm if i like nickelback i guess you will like POS if not, it is not really interesting ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
Claiming them to be geniuses is a huge overstatement
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 15:29 |
This is incredible, awful ( in positiv meaning), fantastic. I finaly got my lyrics, about song: Pain of salavation, "Ashes" from the man named DavidInsabella.
Hey man, than you very much, very much... If you ever cam in Houston Tx I,m gonna prepare a big barbecue wit 100 cold best germens beer for you.
What to say about song, about lyrycs. Simply, i,m frozen. Brilliant, excelent, beoutifull,...................
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 11:05 |
the whole CD is pretty much about 2 abused children who find comfort in each other, very moving.
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 10:17 |
dolina vila wrote:
Gays, i have a question for you. does somebody know full text of song "Ashes". Right now, i,m listening that song, but my native longuage is not english, and becouse that, i did not understand all of song.The song is brilliant.Please somebody answer to me.![](smileys/smiley17.gif) | You claim I don't know you, but I know you well I read in those ash eyes we've been through hell I've walked with the weakest just to feel strong You've given your body just to belong
Let's burn together Let's burn together
This pain will never end These scars will never mend
I taste your sorrow and you taste my pain Drawn to each other for every stain Licking the layers of soot from your skin Your tears work my crust to let yourself in
Touching you harder Touching you harder now
As we walk through the ashes I whisper your name A taste of pain to cling to As we walk through the ashes You whisper my name Who's the one with the sickest mind... now?
This pain will never end Our scars will never mend Cleansing sweat We are just using each other Too depraved to stay alive But too young to die And we hurt Thus we hurt
Scrubbing it harder Too late to back out now Scrubbing it even harder As these two broken barren desolate disordered words collide
As we walk through the ashes I whisper your name A taste of pain to cling to As we walk through the ashes You whisper my name Who's the one with the sickest mind... now?
This pain will never end These scars will never mend Damn this dirty bed Damn this dirty head
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 09:23 |
dolina vila wrote:
Gays, i have a question for you. does somebody know full text of song "Ashes". Right now, i,m listening that song, but my native longuage is not english, and becouse that, i did not understand all of song.The song is brilliant.Please somebody answer to me. |
Why is the question only for gays?
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 09:20 |
Gays, i have a question for you. does somebody know full text of song "Ashes". Right now, i,m listening that song, but my native longuage is not english, and becouse that, i did not understand all of song.The song is brilliant.Please somebody answer to me.![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 09:00 |
DavidInsabella wrote:
Why would you listen to awful music?
And if a book is written that makes no sence with the grammar of a small child?
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THERE IS NO AWFUL MUSIC!!!!!!! THERE IS ONLY MUSIC THAT YOU DONT LIKE!!!!!!!
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:48 |
con safo wrote:
I think there can be honestly bad music. Examples are these teen stars who think they can sing, and even get caught lip syncing, and still manage to sell records. Or people who have famous Dads/Brothers/Sisters who have their foor in the door even though they dont have a lick a talent, and their music is sincerely BAD. Theres no way around it, sh*te like lindsay lohan and ashlee simpson is horrible, horrible music that is made simply for commercial success, nothing else. Sure.. people listen to it, but then they hit puberty.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
I respect talent in all genres, but i know genuinely BAD music when i hear it. |
Exactly
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:47 |
colin007 wrote:
why would you eat it if it tasted like dung? thats just stupid.
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Why would you listen to awful music?
colin007 wrote:
lets try a different illustration. lets say you like certain genres of literature, and i dont really like that genre or author. can i honestly say that your book choice is bad? how can a book be bad? if someone likes it, then thats all that matters!
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And if a book is written that makes no sence with the grammar of a small child?
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con safo
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:15 |
I think there can be honestly bad music. Examples are these teen stars who think they can sing, and even get caught lip syncing, and still manage to sell records. Or people who have famous Dads/Brothers/Sisters who have their foor in the door even though they dont have a lick a talent, and their music is sincerely BAD. Theres no way around it, sh*te like lindsay lohan and ashlee simpson is horrible, horrible music that is made simply for commercial success, nothing else. Sure.. people listen to it, but then they hit puberty.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
I respect talent in all genres, but i know genuinely BAD music when i hear it.
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 11:03 |
^Then it has themes are something going through it that you don't like,
or it's missing something that the other books have FOR YOU. Maybe
someone else hates the other books but loves that one.
See, I don't like Genesis very much...at all, but I love Yes, Krimson,
GG, VDGG, Spock's Beard and a couple others. Does that make Genesis
bad? Uh, no. That just makes them not to my taste.
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 10:55 |
What if it's a genre you like, are well-read, love huge amounts of it but can't stand this one book?
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colin007
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Posted: June 08 2005 at 09:22 |
why would you eat it if it tasted like dung? thats just stupid.
lets try a different illustration. lets say you like certain genres of literature, and i dont really like that genre or author. can i honestly say that your book choice is bad? how can a book be bad? if someone likes it, then thats all that matters!
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 15:51 |
colin007 wrote:
DavidInsabella wrote:
Yeah, anyone who thinks there are at least some standards for music are elitest and stupid right? |
basically.
its like food. is there good or bad food? yeah, theres junk food, but there is nothing inherently wrong with it, as long as you eat in moderation. would it make sense to say "food x is bad."? and w/ music, there is no good or bad. just cos you dont like it doesnt make it bad. |
So if I ate food that tasted like dung and gave me indigestion, I couldn't say it was bad food?
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colin007
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 11:14 |
DavidInsabella wrote:
Yeah, anyone who thinks there are at least some standards for music are elitest and stupid right? |
basically.
its like food. is there good or bad food? yeah, theres junk food, but there is nothing inherently wrong with it, as long as you eat in moderation. would it make sense to say "food x is bad."? and w/ music, there is no good or bad. just cos you dont like it doesnt make it bad.
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 10:33 |
colin007 wrote:
goose wrote:
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im referring to the elitist mentality here and the absurd notion that music can be good or bad. |
Yeah, anyone who thinks there are at least some standards for music are elitest and stupid right?
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colin007
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:45 |
goose wrote:
? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif) |
im referring to the elitist mentality here and the absurd notion that music can be good or bad.
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goose
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:40 |
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colin007
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Posted: June 07 2005 at 09:05 |
wow, you guys give this genre a bad name...![](smileys/smiley18.gif)
oh well, to each his own.
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 23:38 |
Pain of Salvation is an incredible band, and The Perfect Element holds a special place in my heart...Remedy Lane is also an amazing album. I think the band reached its apex with those two masterpieces. I like BE, but it doesnt have the soul of other PoS releases and i think that Daniel focused too much on cocept while ignoring his incredible talent to make great music. But when it gets down to it, I would say Pain of Salvation is my favorite band and i cant wait to see them play sometime in the states. I can see how some people wouldn't like them, as they are a very aquired taste. But i like it that way...i dont think people who listen to 50 Cent and Fat Joe deserve to hear Pain of Salvation...
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