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ResidentAlien
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Topic: American Psycho Genesis quote..... Posted: January 17 2006 at 23:40 |
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away* |
Hate to spoil it further... but he most definitely was a serial killer. You missed the point.
*Spoiler*
The point was (as was better illustrated in the novel than the film)
that these businessmen were so shallow and self-centered. He did
kill those people. But remember the recurring theme of everyone
not remembering eachother's name? For instance when he kills
Jared Leto's character, and later on someone says that they had eaten
lunch with Leto's character the other day, so he couldn't be
dead. Well... he was dead. He just didn't know who the hell
he was eating lunch with. These people are so inconsequential and
self-centered as that they don't remember anything that doesn't
immediately benefit them. That's why Bateman was able to kill all
those people and have everyone tell him he didn't kill anyone. No
one remembered, you see.
*End of Spoiler*
Anycase, great film and book. And the Genesis quote was a riot.
Oh, this is my first post by the way. So, hello everyone.
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Igha
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 23:20 |
I began to saw High Fidelity and got bored pretty soon...I hoped he
would talk about the great prog bands but it's all about poppy band
most of the time and a love center story.
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justin
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 21:26 |
i love this movie and find this scene hilarious... However my understanding of the ending is that he really did commit the murders and it is that his peers couldnt believe that someone who is rich and successful would do such things...
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im not insane, im not insane... im just smarter then you
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Paulieg
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 08:53 |
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Peter
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 08:46 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Peter wrote:
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Another funny know-it-all re music is Jack Black's caustic, elitist record store clerk guy in Grosse Pointe Blanc. Ha!
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i think you mean High Fidelity
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Yes, you're right, thanks -- I wasn't sure.
Funny character, hey?
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 08:09 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Peter wrote:
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away*
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OK -- my mistake. (I never saw the flic, & not sure that I want to. Movies about murderers are not my cup o' tea, really.)
I just didn't like the idea of a serial killer being portrayed as funny and likeable, but if he's not a killer -- yeah, he sounds funny.
Another funny know-it-all re music is Jack Black's caustic, elitist record store clerk guy in Grosse Pointe Blanc. Ha!
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i think you mean High Fidelity
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I think so too. There are some very funny moments in the book e.g. when they refuse to sell someone "I just called to say I love you" on grounds of taste.
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W.Chuck
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 03:39 |
I loved that scene, especially the part where he talks about the early genesis ("Before 1980 they were to complex, etc for me"), nice scene although the film was quite senseless!
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 01:57 |
going by the movie, there is no interpretation...he just thought it all up, the guy he thought he killed is alive at the end, and he just knows he is insane
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 01:31 |
Peter wrote:
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away*
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OK -- my mistake. (I never saw the flic, & not sure that I want to. Movies about murderers are not my cup o' tea, really.)
I just didn't like the idea of a serial killer being portrayed as funny and likeable, but if he's not a killer -- yeah, he sounds funny.
Another funny know-it-all re music is Jack Black's caustic, elitist record store clerk guy in Grosse Pointe Blanc. Ha!
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i think you mean High Fidelity
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spo1977
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 00:58 |
Laurent wrote:
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away* |
Really?, and this is confirmed. Cause I always thought it was left open to interpretation.
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Thats what I thought too. It has been a while since I have seen the movie, but at the end he goes back to a crime scene and the place is clean as if nothing ever happened. He was just imagining all that stuff.
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Laurent
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 00:39 |
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away* |
Really?, and this is confirmed. Cause I always thought it was left open to interpretation.
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Peter
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 00:05 |
The Lost Chord wrote:
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away*
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OK -- my mistake. (I never saw the flic, & not sure that I want to. Movies about murderers are not my cup o' tea, really.)
I just didn't like the idea of a serial killer being portrayed as funny and likeable, but if he's not a killer -- yeah, he sounds funny.
Another funny know-it-all re music is Jack Black's caustic, elitist record store clerk guy in Grosse Pointe Blanc. Ha!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 23:18 |
NEED I SPOIL THE ENDING FOR THE SAKE OF THIS THREAD!!!
hes not a serial killer..... *whistles away*
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Peter
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:46 |
^ Ah yes -- those lovable, rascally, charming psychopathic serial killers -- always good for a laugh....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:32 |
if anyone has seen the movie, christian bales character "patrick bateman" is absolutely hilarious...he knows EVERYTHING about the music he listens to, and lectures about whatever he is playing to the person or persons he is about to kill.
He is a miserable, insane business man...the movie/book is kind of playing on the stereotypes of major wallstreet business people, and thus the character is hilarious.
At one point he goes into the hotel of the man he has just killed and says something all these lines "and in a moment of sheer panic, i noticed john allans apartment window was facing the park, a better view than my apartement and thus a more expensive location"
its a hilarious film, and the genesis quote made it even more hilarious for me after becoming a huge gen fan
anyways, he has sex to sussudio after that quote with two girls as he felxes in the mirror, its amazing
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Peter
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:21 |
BaldFriede wrote:
How anyone can make love to that music is beyond me; it would definitely kill my mood. |
What -- you've never heard of the rhythm method?
Banana-rammer is reputed to be good....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:14 |
BaldFriede wrote:
How anyone can make love to that music is beyond me; it would definitely kill my mood.
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Well... maybe that's the point. how anyone could kill that many people is beyond me too. The character's intellectual appreciation for bad 80s pop just makes him that much crazier. you got to be nuts to like that stuff!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 21:08 |
How anyone can make love to that music is beyond me; it would definitely kill my mood.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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el böthy
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 21:04 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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erlenst
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 17:33 |
Hehe. I'd guess that the author of the book actually likes old Genesis better than new.
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