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daz2112
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Topic: Gilmour vs Fripp Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:46 |
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Posted: January 27 2006 at 07:08 |
Gilfripp or Frilmour
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Posted: January 27 2006 at 00:25 |
Fripp for me
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Posted: January 27 2006 at 00:16 |
Forgotten Son wrote:
Ridge wrote:
I would also dare to say that he is highly more influential on other guitarists than Guilmor |
You're dead wrong their. Fripp's Influence is actually quite minimal. I could probably count Fripp influenced guitarists that actually sound something like him using only my fingers. Gilmour's list of significant Influences is considerably longer:
Rothery Latimer Belew DeGarmo Barrett Josh Lucassen Petrucci Wilson
To name just a few.
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I don't hear the Gilmour influence in Belew, and I have listened to an extensive amount of material with Belew on it. I can definitely hear a Fripp influence in Belew, however, it makes sense that there is a Fripp-esque style with Belew, I mean he's played with the man for over 20 years.
But I will agree with the rest of that list you created, especially Steve Rothery and Arjen Lucassen.
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Posted: January 27 2006 at 00:08 |
Fripp is a lot better in his style and is music.
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:21 |
gotta be frip, dudes. the guys an ideas machine!
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:41 |
i think Gilmours skilled, but i really cant stand his style on alot of songs. i'd say fripp.
you all should listen to 'tremelo study in a minor' by giles giles and fripp.
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Posted: January 08 2006 at 06:27 |
Being somewhat blinkered and old fashioned I prefer 'early' King Crimson, I could never quite get on with the music Fripp produced after 'Red' was released. Then he was fresh, brash and also very thoughtful. You had no idea exactly what he was going to do next which only heightened the experience. I know his output has been prolific since those halcyon days but I still find my self going back to the likes of 'Starless', 'Larks Tongues' etc. But that's only my own view. Gilmore on the other hand has never ceased to amaze, stun or hurt me. Even now his music seems to find a level within me that nobody else seems quite able to reach. High or low, left or right it makes no difference. Each a genius in his own right but Fripp assaults the senses, Gilmore overwhelms them.
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Posted: January 07 2006 at 22:03 |
Stargazer wrote:
Winter Wine wrote:
romanm wrote:
I love both styles but technically Fripp is better by far, in different ways they have a lot of feeling and creativity
Technic: Fripp
Feeling: Both
Creativity: Both
Fripp 3 Gilmour 2
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For technicality it is by FAR David Gilmour, he's the worlds biggest GENIUS when it comes to effects, and the way he can manipulate a chord until it is almost unrecognisable!!!!! the man is a genius on all levels! Not to mention you can really FEEL his playing, there is more emotion, more heart, more times in Floyd's music when you know Gilmour is about to do something special, something that always fills the listener with emotion, this happens less in crimsons music. (love the Fripp man though). Gilmour is more than just a guitarist.
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You pretty much said it all right there. It doesn't really matter if Gilmour has played every genre ever or not, he feels the music so much more than so many other guitarists. Music isn't about mathematics or experimenting for the sake of experimenting, it's for feeling something, and for expressing yourself. Dave does a way better job at that, if you ask me.
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I don't think Dave does a "way" better job of expressing himself on the guitar, Fripp expresses his anger and saddness very well. Listen to almost any Fripp solo and you can tell he has an angry attitude, he expresses himself very well, it just's a matter of tastes, neither is all that much better than the other, both are preety even to eachother if you ask me.
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Posted: January 07 2006 at 21:46 |
Fripp for me
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Posted: January 07 2006 at 18:45 |
Winter Wine wrote:
romanm wrote:
I love both styles but technically Fripp is better by far, in
different ways they have a lot of feeling and creativity
Technic: Fripp
Feeling: Both
Creativity: Both
Fripp 3 Gilmour 2
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For technicality it is by FAR David Gilmour, he's the worlds
biggest GENIUS when it comes to effects, and the way he can
manipulate a chord until it is almost unrecognisable!!!!! the man is a
genius on all levels! Not to mention you can really FEEL his
playing, there is more emotion, more heart, more times in Floyd's music
when you know Gilmour is about to do something special, something that
always fills the listener with emotion, this happens less in crimsons
music. (love the Fripp man though). Gilmour is more than just a
guitarist. |
You pretty much said it all right there. It doesn't really matter if
Gilmour has played every genre ever or not, he feels the music so much
more than so many other guitarists. Music isn't about mathematics or
experimenting for the sake of experimenting, it's for feeling
something, and for expressing yourself. Dave does a way better job at
that, if you ask me.
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Posted: January 07 2006 at 08:32 |
Gilmour is not repeatative he just plays with a familiar style, it makes the music seem like and old friend or something. Where as Fripps style is like meeting someone new everytime you hear a new song. Also Gilmours solos are more iconic, it's hard to recall a Fripp solo note for note, where as Gilmours become etched in your brain
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 22:19 |
Dave Gilmour along with Steve Hackett the best, Fripp is overrated IMO.
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 17:13 |
Gilmour touches my heart, what isn't something easy in music.
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 16:52 |
dralan wrote:
pale moon wrote:
David Gilmour can make you cry by playing just one note. |
Exactly. I love both guitarists, but I have to go with Gilmour on this one. Fripps playing is almost anti-emotional sometimes, like a mathematical approach to playing.
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David for me, but I would say he is actually more "mathematical" and even robotic in his playing since he never really plays a "random" note. Ever listened to him live? His solo's are almost exactly the same, which can be boring for me sometimes. Fripp is the "King" of improvision and NEVER plays any solo the same. So when it comes to technicality Fripp is the deffinite winner. But when it comes to feeling and emotion, both have just as much, Gilmour is the best at playing with a sad feeling while Fripp is the best at playing with an angry feeling.
I just happen to be the person that preferes sadder solo's more than angry ones, but just barely though.
Gimour is more preferable by, but only by a hair.
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We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
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Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 16:28 |
I enjoy Gilmour to a point. After WYWH, it all sounds samey to me. However, Fripp has always sounded fresh to my ears. I'm going with Fripp.
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 16:21 |
romanm wrote:
I love both styles but technically Fripp is better by far, in different ways they have a lot of feeling and creativity
Technic: Fripp
Feeling: Both
Creativity: Both
Fripp 3 Gilmour 2
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For technicality it is by FAR David Gilmour, he's the worlds biggest GENIUS when it comes to effects, and the way he can manipulate a chord until it is almost unrecognisable!!!!! the man is a genius on all levels! Not to mention you can really FEEL his playing, there is more emotion, more heart, more times in Floyd's music when you know Gilmour is about to do something special, something that always fills the listener with emotion, this happens less in crimsons music. (love the Fripp man though). Gilmour is more than just a guitarist.
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 16:18 |
Tholomyes wrote:
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Me neither
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Ditto
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 16:13 |
Fripp is a true legend and innovator. His style might not be the warmest, but he's definitely in a league of his own. Gilmour is good, but more of an ordinary guitarist. I don't find that his style makes him stand out like with Fripp. You can hear Fripp and instantly identify him.
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Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:12 |
I personally pick Fripp over Gilmour
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