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Tommy 
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Posted: December 28 2005 at 16:30 |
 Losendos wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
What disturbs me is why Brain Salad Surgery is not higher than in the Court of the Crimson King. ITCOTCK is probabley there only for the reason that it invented prog, the quality of the album itself set aside. ITCOTCK has 'Moonchild', which is is 10 minutes of the worst filler ever imagined. Brain Salad Surgery's weak side is 'Benny the Bouncer', which is only two minutes. You could also make a case for Still You Turn me On, but it is not 'bad' or 'filler', its usually regarded as a great tune. Even so, that dosn't measusre up to the length of moonchilds noodling. So therefore BSS should be higher than King Crimson debut. |
Couldn't agree more. Brain Salad Surgery can match it with any of the top ten.
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Agreed, BSS is pure class and should defineatly be above the four Genesis albums listed. Tactical reviews come to mind!
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: December 28 2005 at 12:37 |
WINTER WINE wrote:
"Brain Salad Surgery In Every Way Deserves A Place In The Top Ten, Nursery Cryme Doesn't"
That is personal opinion and personal preference. I' don't think that Brain Salad belongs in the Top Ten (or even Top 30). But again, that's just personal opinion. Others (especially ELP fans) will strongly disagree. But that's okay. We all have our own tastes.
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Menack
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Posted: December 28 2005 at 12:31 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Menack wrote:
^Just given stars. If you scroll down the reviews page, eventually the reviews will end and you'll see all the ratings (not reviews) an album has been given. |
Thats such a sham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes. Yes it is.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 28 2005 at 08:02 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Menack wrote:
^Just given stars. If you scroll down the reviews page, eventually the reviews will end and you'll see all the ratings (not reviews) an album has been given. |
Thats such a sham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agreed.
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Losendos
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Posted: December 28 2005 at 06:21 |
The Wizard wrote:
What disturbs me is why Brain Salad Surgery is not higher than in the Court of the Crimson King. ITCOTCK is probabley there only for the reason that it invented prog, the quality of the album itself set aside. ITCOTCK has 'Moonchild', which is is 10 minutes of the worst filler ever imagined. Brain Salad Surgery's weak side is 'Benny the Bouncer', which is only two minutes. You could also make a case for Still You Turn me On, but it is not 'bad' or 'filler', its usually regarded as a great tune. Even so, that dosn't measusre up to the length of moonchilds noodling. So therefore BSS should be higher than King Crimson debut. |
Couldn't agree more. Brain Salad Surgery can match it with any of the top ten.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:29 |
Menack wrote:
^Just given stars. If you scroll down the reviews page, eventually the reviews will end and you'll see all the ratings (not reviews) an album has been given. |
Thats such a sham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Menack
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:01 |
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^Just given stars. If you scroll down the reviews page, eventually the reviews will end and you'll see all the ratings (not reviews) an album has been given.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:45 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Winter Wine wrote:
Speaking if which, can someone tell why Queen II was in the top 100 a few days ago, but now even though there was no new reviews of the album it's gone?? |
Well it could of course be that the albums which replaced it were reviewed or rated without review.
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Rated without review???
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Easy Livin
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:43 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Speaking if which, can someone tell why Queen II was in the top 100 a few days ago, but now even though there was no new reviews of the album it's gone?? |
Well it could of course be that the albums which replaced it were reviewed or rated without review.
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:30 |
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There's been a couple of reviews of SEBTP in the last 24 hours, they could affect the positions. |
..breaking prog news,you heard it here first folks on the one and only channel 5461 'the hip sound of prog'
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:42 |
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LOL ... it seems like we have some "chart-gremlins" at work here ... funny little creatures! |
Ba*****s!!  I thought it was great finally seein' them there!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:31 |
LOL ... it seems like we have some "chart-gremlins" at work here ... funny little creatures!
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:21 |
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Speaking if which, can someone tell why Queen II was in the top 100 a few days ago, but now even though there was no new reviews of the album it's gone??
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Easy Livin
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:17 |
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There's been a couple of reviews of SEBTP in the last 24 hours, they could affect the positions.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:00 |
Menack wrote:
I swear I just saw Selling England by the Pound ahead of Close to the Edge at #1, and now it's back to normal  ...curious.
btw, first post! 
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Welcome! and Close to the edge should stay in number one!!
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Menack
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 13:52 |
I swear I just saw Selling England by the Pound ahead of Close to the Edge at #1, and now it's back to normal ...curious.
btw, first post!
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 24 2005 at 12:15 |
The Wizard wrote:
What disturbs me is why Brain Salad Surgery is not higher than in the Court of the Crimson King. ITCOTCK is probabley there only for the reason that it invented prog, the quality of the album itself set aside. ITCOTCK has 'Moonchild', which is is 10 minutes of the worst filler ever imagined. Brain Salad Surgery's weak side is 'Benny the Bouncer', which is only two minutes. You could also make a case for Still You Turn me On, but it is not 'bad' or 'filler', its usually regarded as a great tune. Even so, that dosn't measusre up to the length of moonchilds noodling. So therefore BSS should be higher than King Crimson debut. |
I agree 100%. brain salad is far superior to itcotck!!! and benny the bouncer isn't bad either
i think itcotck is up that high due to nostalgia. thats my honest view on it. i like the record tho 
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The Wizard
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Posted: December 24 2005 at 12:11 |
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What disturbs me is why Brain Salad Surgery is not higher than in the Court of the Crimson King. ITCOTCK is probabley there only for the reason that it invented prog, the quality of the album itself set aside. ITCOTCK has 'Moonchild', which is is 10 minutes of the worst filler ever imagined. Brain Salad Surgery's weak side is 'Benny the Bouncer', which is only two minutes. You could also make a case for Still You Turn me On, but it is not 'bad' or 'filler', its usually regarded as a great tune. Even so, that dosn't measusre up to the length of moonchilds noodling. So therefore BSS should be higher than King Crimson debut.
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Losendos
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Posted: December 24 2005 at 06:28 |
Make that "1000 random prog music fans", and I'm not so sure of the outcome. I'm sure that from those choices, CttE would win easily.
Agreed if each Yes fan is allowed the usual 30 votes :)
Having said that, I wonder why Selling England is that popular here ... maybe there IS a secret conspiracy!
can't work that out either. Might be the same Genesis fan voting 30 times
For me Fragile and RElayer are preferable from the Yes catalogue
and Foxtrot and The Lamb are preferable from the Genesis catalogue
In fact this list has provided me more than a few surprises
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How wonderful to be so profound
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 24 2005 at 04:29 |
Losendos wrote:
If Supertramp Queen and the Moody Blues can be labelled prog then Abbey Road also fits in the category of pop/prog.Also I never said that my opinion was a majority particularly on this list.
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Queen are in the Prog-Related category. That means that they're "not really" prog for most people.
Losendos wrote:
But if you gave Abbey Road ,Dark Side of the Moon ,Close to the Edge and Selling england bythe Pound to a 1000 random music fans and asked them to state their favorite it would be decided between Dark Side of the Moon and Abbey Road.
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Make that "1000 random prog music fans", and I'm not so sure of the outcome. I'm sure that from those choices, CttE would win easily. Having said that, I wonder why Selling England is that popular here ... maybe there IS a secret conspiracy!
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