Most Hated Prog Bands From Punks

To add som points to my opinion about Punk being a poser movement, just read this quotes:

To his peers — and even his bandmates — Vicious was something of a sad sack, deficient in both intelligence and common sense, essentially a sweet soul easily led into stupidity and flights of egomania. Despite the Sex Pistols reputation for amateurish musicianship (often supported by subpar live bootlegs), everyone in the band could play their instruments — everyone, that is, except Vicious, who made a valiant effort to learn the bass at first but was quickly derailed by the instant gratifications of fame, stardom, and heroin addiction. Not only was Vicious musically talentless, but The Pistols vision had virtually nothing to do with him: he wasn't even present when much of the group's material was conceived and written, and Johnny Rotten was largely responsible for the controversial lyrics and attitude that built their reputation. Vicious' presence did contribute a certain dangerous energy to the Pistols performances, but his unreliability as a rhythm section anchor could just as easily hurt the band's live sound. Allmusic

Simply unbelievable, and they have the balls to call Prog musicians and fans drug addicts?

Sid was a member of the Pistols despite the fact he couldn't play a note - remember it was the talented Glen Matlock who played bass on the classic Never Mind The Bollocks - and his only value to them was his supposed shock value. http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2004/02/09/too_fast.sh tml

For God's sake, this is simply stupid, you fire a talented bassist, not to hire a better one but a guy who can't play?

February 1977 Glen Matlock left the group. His replacement was the before mentioned Sid Vicious who first had to learn how to play bass!   http://www.sex-pistols.net/main.html

All this quotes only to ask, does any band in the world except this sad posers would hire a sub-normal, talentless pseudo musician who couldn't play a note just to keep an image?

And this are their icons?????

Why should we even care which band they hated if this guys said they hated everything?????

Iván

Actually Rotten went on record years later saying he actually loved Floyd but that T-shirt was worn as an attitude statement

Good quote Sean, this proves that this guys were just coffe shop revolutionaries, he loves Pink Floyd but uses a T-Shirt saying I hate Pink Floyd, just to prove how agressive he is, please, this is plain stupid.

Just because I'm a Prog fan I won't use an I hate Fleetwood Mac or Meatloaf shirts because I also love both bands

BTW: Have you ever seen any Prog artist with something similar like a T-shirt I hate XXXXXX, if you're confident in your work you shouldn't care of what anybody else does.

Iván

Another shameless plug for the new VdGG book (the book is nothing at all to do with me, its become essential reading though, love it!)...

The book mentions that John Lydon was a fan of Hammill's, not only liking 'Nadirs big chance' but also liking anothe one of his solo albums (Over). Anyone ever listening to this album will know its all about Hammill's breakup from his long term girlfriend and is as far away from punk as could be imagined.

Lydon attended a number of VdGG concerts and had a number of discussions with Hammill.

Ever the rebel though Lydon told Hammill he was a 'middle class c**t'.

I think a lot of this punk being anti prog was stirred up not by the punk muscians but by the svengalis behind them (Malcolm Mclaren and the like). Its just the sort of thing Peter Grant would have done if he were in the same position; to get maximum exposure for their band.

I asked the only punk I know and he said Rush just shaded Yes to the title.

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Actually, you're both right - the defaced t shirt was originally altered and worn by Rotten, but it was Paul Cook who wore it during the notorious Bill Grundy interview which is shown on The Filth and the Fury.

Hemispheres wrote: Charles wrote: Syzygy wrote: Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey.   Joy Division.. Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence... Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk... Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences... Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious... Charles true ive also read that Pete Shelly Of The Buzzcocks loved Can and alot of krautrock

I'm not sure about the CD reissue, but the original vinyl version of the double album compilation Cannibalism had a sleevenote by Pete Shelley, who said that he would not have started playing guitar were it not for Michael Karoli and Marc Bolan.

I can't guess what goes inside a Punk head because I don't listen Punk,  this genre started as anti Prog' mostly (I can't understand how something can base his existence in being anti anything), so they probably hate all the genre.

But honestly, I couldn't care less about what they love or hate.

Iván

I depends on what punks you ask. I am pretty much a f*ing punk and most of my freinds. Lots of old Genesis fans; lots of Tull fans (me especially); of course no worthy punk is gonna dis Crimson (L.T.I.A.??); old Syd Barrett Pink Floyd is pretty f*ing punk (Interstellar Overdrive?????); and Rush was an influence despite the apparent hatred. Lots of 80's punks grew up litsening to that stuff (All/'All' era Descendents???Lots of real technical parts to those guys).

Faust, Neu! and Beefheart are all worshiped by punks...

Anyway, I voted for Yes; mostly because of Rick Wakeman...