4 Actors whom can do few Wrongs

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From that list I'd go for Daniel Day Lewis or Ralph Fiennes. Probably the former. From what I've seen I don't think Billy Bob Thornton or Gary Oldman are their equals. I'm more impressed with Jeremy Irons than both of them.

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Just remembering Glenda Jackson dancing and trying to hypnotize buffaloes in Women in Love by the great Ken Russell makes her worthy of being on the list. But also her participation in Sunday Bloody Sunday by John Schlesinger, where she taught how to say so many things with silences... made her eternal.

verslibre wrote: I like Tom's early-CoS stuff. I still think his best movie is Risky Business. It never gets old. A bona fide '80s classic. I don't care for the M:I franchise and a lot of his other flicks (I couldn't finish Jerry Maguire), but one that turned out surprisingly good is Oblivion.

Logan wrote: Icarium might be like, "The dark forces have tried to steer this down these hellish side-roads and tried to lead the flock astray and away from the straight and narrow road of the truth and the light of my threadly vision, but we shall prevail. You look thirsty, here, have some Kool-Aid." Sorry for such a terrible cult leader impersonation and an even worse impersonation of Icarium (who may be a part-time cult leader, who knows?)

Logan wrote: verslibre wrote: Logan wrote: Heaven's Gate is the cult that has fascinated me the most and I actually feel a significant connection to the group. I was surprised to learn not long ago that Heaven's Gate has continued to operate. Kind of still operating. There are some people who were members (classmates) who go by TELAH as I recall and still keep the old site going and will even give you material if you request it, and one of the old classmates, Sawyer, is still a firm believer. He has been very much at odds with other former classmates of Ti and Do and resents their taking ownership of things Heaven's Gate. I underestrand people wanting to not be part of this world, to want to something special, but I find the belief-system anbd desires so unsettling, and deepy unethical to the vehicle you inhabit (the body that is taken over). That body snatcher mentality is so off-putting to me. These were misfits who found a sense of community and purpose and propped each-other up which led to the 30 "beaming up" as one member who ended her vehicle's life put it -- A Star Trek reference being very apt since Nichelle Nichols's (Uhura) brother was one of the class that took that fateful act. I spent so much time looking into them, watching documentaries, hearing the tapes, watching the videos, correspondence, everything, that I do feel this deep connection with the class (and I find it all so sad).

Logan wrote: Heaven's Gate is the cult that has fascinated me the most and I actually feel a significant connection to the group.

Logan wrote: Having really delved into Scientology (a topic I was fascinated by) it likely would have a much bigger impact on me than others.

^ That person in the video, the character that comes through, is who I see coming though commonly when I see Tom Cruise in things, and there was something unnerving to me about him even before I saw that or knew that he was a Scientologist. I can still enjoy John Travolta in things despite knowing he is Scientologist (I don"t think he's a great actor) and I have enjoyed Tom Cruise in some things and can respect his acting despite him creeping me out).

A kind of intensity. There are plenty of artists who have done terrible things whose art I enjoy. Bobby Beausoleil's Lucifer Rising is one of my favourite albums and he is a convicted murderer who was involved with the Manson family.

I can enjoy the art, or performance, of all of those. My wife compares me to Vincent Van Gogh, who I suppose had he been an actor might have been in Julis Caesar, "Friend, Romans, countrymen, lend my your ears." Now that is hella creepy! I can watch an actor who is often in horror movies and not be creeped by the actor when not performing. A writer might creep me out with their works but not creep me out as person or have neagtive personal aspects that I do not focus on when reading their writings. Stanley Kubrick kind of creeps me out, or I find intimidating and problematic as person, yet he is one of my favourite directors. Kevin SPacey had his big MeToo moment yet I still really love his acting. Therre are interesting moments where art seems to imitate life and life imitates art which would be another interesting aspect, but commonly I can separate the art from the artist as well as finding interest in the synergy.

Anyway, I found that Tom Cruise video quite fascinating to watch. It feels so Hollywood, and the Scientology jargon.... Having really delved into Scientology (a topic I was fascinated by) it likely would have a much bigger impact on me than others. I hope you can grok where I am coming from, to quote a word from one of my very favourite novels, Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. But if you Kant, no problem.