symphonic and avant prog

Cristi wrote: ^ nothing avant about Kaipa.

Cristi wrote: ^ nothing avant about Kaipa.

I need to say, I agree. It did not feel very different in structure from symphonic progs, in which the guitar reminds itself of its existence by being more audible than soft. Although it wasn't the one I was looking for because I love the symphonic prog, it was a suggestion I happily used.

runciblemoon wrote: Have you explored much Zeuhl yet? A lot of Zeuhl kind of splits the difference between the two, with big expansive, bombastic arrangements a la symph and dissonance, experimentation and jazz leanings a la avant-prog. "K.A." by Magma and "Mathematical Mother" by Universal Totem Orchestra would be good starting points.

As I said above, I found Mathematical Mother on the discarded site and I loved it. I knew about magma before, but I didn't wrap it up. I looked at their songs saying that there was such a group that went through it again recently and I don't know what exactly has changed, but I can say my mood these days for this subgenre and the group. For the last week, every time I tell my friends "Look what I'll show you", I introduced them to this group.

^ nothing avant about Kaipa. 

richardh wrote: You have just described King Crimson . Larks Tongues in Aspic or Lizard should suit you well enough.

Sorry for the late reply too. The band, the album and the song itself are absolute masterpieces. When I first opened Topic, I never thought that I could find what I was looking for in ecletic, but when I first looked at these messages, I had an enlightenment on this subject. It started to nudge me to start looking at what genres these pieces might actually be inspired by and what they might look like, and to actually think about discovering music through sub genre as well as grasping the sub genre of music. For this reason, this sebgenre event provided a different perspective for me, thank you very much.

mellotronwave wrote: Kurt Rongey 's music perhaps ?

Well, sorry again for the late reply. He has a very interesting style, unfortunately, since he is not the platform I can listen to, he does not have music that I can add to my daily music routine, but I listen to it from time to time.

siLLy puPPy wrote: The great thing about Rate Your Music's top album's chart is that the new filtering system means you can focus on multiple genres. Check this list that contains both symph and avant. https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:all,symphonic%2dprog,avant%2dprog/ Unfortunately only works if both genres are primary. Secondary ones as in Van Der Graaf Generator don't show up. The eclectic prog category on PA has many candidates

Ehe, again, I apologize for such a late reply. This was definitely a genius idea, although unfortunately it didn't work very well for my request, it helped me to have fun and discover a lot of new music by offering my other fantastic tricks. I used a few beauties from this page to enrich my list. Dans quel état j'erre and Mathematical mother were great albums. Thank you very much.

Edited by rockrowb - April 21 2023 at 04:48

Edited by Hrychu - April 21 2023 at 02:55

rockrowb wrote:    Is there any piece of music where I can take the taste of these two sub-genres together?

You'll find a whole smorgasbord of Avant Symphonic Prog in Sweden. Namely, Isidurs Bane, Kaipa, and Von Zamla as a starter course.