Why Isn't Chicago (the band) Considered Prog? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

MortSahlFan wrote:

I'll say it again.. I'm talking about TERRY KATH Chicago... f**k the future garbage.

Listen to the first albums.

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If they were English there's a good chance they'd be considered prog (or at least more prog). Then again Traffic are English and they aren't always considered prog either.

Lots of time changes in this one.

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Given that a number of people do not consider jazz rock / fusion to be prog, I suppose one should ask the question: Is Chicago (the band) jazz rock / fusion?

No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.

No reason to mention when you saw them in the 80s... They became a completely different band after Terry's death, but even toward his end, he was writing straight rock stuff (Takin It On Uptown). In the 80s, (the minute Foster became the producer, any music would have sounded like sh*t - trendy 80s engineering/production) they became a sh*tty pop 80s synth drum garbage. Like my favorite band Pink Floyd. But Roger wrote most of their stuff, while Pankow (trombone) wrote more than Kath.

And, it's not like there aren't prog bands who didn't have pop stuff somewhere in the album. It doesn't have to be a 3 minute song to be pop. And there's nothing wrong with an eclectic album, especially when you have so many members, writers, and singers.... Pink Floyd had some pop, too. "Take Five" has a catchy melody and counter-melody between Dave Brubeck and Paul Desmond.

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SteveG wrote:

By the year 2050, all rock subgenres will be considered prog, along with Bluegrass, C&W, and Gregorian Chants.

For their sake I hope not. Wink

This is the only site on the face of the planet that is discussing Chicago as a possible prog band........I peed myself LOL.

MortSahlFan wrote:

I'll say it again.. I'm talking about TERRY KATH Chicago... f**k the future garbage.

Listen to the first albums.

Hi,

I wish folks would listen to the albums, specially in order, to the first 7 albums ... but I seriously doubt that most folks here have heard beyond 10 minutes of any album to comment like they did, by saying just about nothing about the music at all, except their like/dislike, which they think is what "defines" music and its history.

As Syd said "...thousands have stood ... and cheered ... something they didn't understand!"

In this case, didn't want to understand, because they think "brass" is not progressive, courtesy of the many folks that defined progressive with the stupidest terms about any music ... up to and including the blue guitar of course, which says a lot about the player, doesn't it?

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tszirmay wrote:

I saw them twice in Montreal once in the late 70s and then in the early 80s and both times, they were just plain terrible. Pop played by numbers, no flair, no excitement, barely any soloing (except for Seraphine doing a decent drum spotlight), truly nothing prog at all, not even fusion Ouch

. They even forgot what city they were playing by stating "Hello Toronto"! Not a good idea in Montreal . Both concerts barely reached the hour mark, including only one encore. I went twice because I thought the first one was a glitch. It was a photocopy . One great debut album does not cut it for me. Kath was Chicago, as far as many proggers are concerned.

Sounds like Pink Floyd circa '87/88, AMLoR tours

I like the analogy (crappy Chicago era vs weakest Floyd era) LOL

, but we got lucky when we saw Floyd on that tour, as they'd rehearsed three weeks in Toronto (in an airport plane shed), and then started with three shows at the CNE (I was there on two different evenings), so it was still quite fresh and energy-filled.

Phil Collins did the opposite ("Bonsoir Montreal" in Toronto) in the very late 70's/early 80's and got booed as well - and Genesis were buying hockey shirt when playing in the arenas.

of course, the endless mega-tours could be harrowing and numbing halfway through.

Sorry - what does “buying hockey shirt” mean - looked it up but can’t find anything? A local phrase?

Many rock groups would wear hockey team jerseys, specific (or not) to a city and its hockey tradition . Bill Bruford wore famously a Boston Bruins jersey (A Large "B" in a circle with arcs) , and when in Toronto or Montreal, huge hockeys meccas, it would make the fans feel a deeper connection with the band ....

Edited by tszirmay - April 16 2022 at 17:00

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