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Poll Question: Please VOTE FOR FOUR not your own and list those in a post
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    Posted: March 31 2022 at 03:31

I've been busy these days and unfortunately I don't have time to comment, last but not least due to a few quite epic pieces we've had in the line-up this time around. Tongue

My votes will go to:

Elephant9: Throughout The Worlds
Portishead: The Rip
Extrabreit: Polizisten
Wahh World Fusion Band: Desire on Fire

Thank you all for the music and special thanks to Greg for hosting this interesting poll! Smile



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Didn't expect Nena to draw votes here - she must be very happy...

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I'm in a Rock mood today, my votes went to:
Krypton - Fata Motgana
Portishead - The Rip
Nena - Satellitenstadt
Barney Wilen - Moshi (Too)
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Nena - Satellitenstadt


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I really like everything, and like Christian before, I will only do one suggestion per user.  

Four votes is not nearly enough. 16 would be perfect.

Kikuo ft. Hanatan - The Girl Who Sells Misfortune
Bill Laswell - Above The Earth (City of Light) (very tempted by your other choice too, now kind of wishing I had gone with that as I so dig the groove -- awesome)
CCCP - Aghia Sophia
Extrabreit - Polizisten (thought I'd go with the Laura choice at first, so in my wheelhouse -- love both)

I was planning to vote for the Elephant9, but on this last listen another pipped it (love Elephant9).  Really tough since every option is a winner to me and I wish every option had a vote.

By the way, bit late for the poll to change the Post Scriptum version, I guess, since we have a number of votes already.  Well, maybe that version could go in the next Interactive Poll Dredge - Regrets topic, if this kind of subject/ approach is revisited.

Many thanks to those who have contributed, and very glad we did the two per person nominations.  Three would have worked too as it turns out. :D


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my three choices

Ennio Morricone - L'arena
Nena - Satellitenstadt
Laura Veirs - Secret Someones
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit: instrumental piece of wonderful cybernetic jazz in new wave style, conducted with a frenzied rhythm, but in the middle comes a melodic interlude on the harmonica. If percussion had returned in the end it would have been a masterpiece.


I found a better and longer version of the song. I wish I found that earlier. Embarrassed
The soft ending of the song is like a moment of tranquility, I always get goosebumps when the harmonica kicks in and I've known the song for a really long while. There's no need for the drums to get back, I don't see how they could have done it. 
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The piece with the harmonica, slow, melodic, is very beautiful but in the economy of a short song, like the first one you posted, it seems too dilated and immediately breaks an exciting frenetic jazz part. For this reason, I would have liked the jazz part to return.

In the second video, the piece with the harmonica comes after a much longer and more exhausting jazz part, and then it seems much better to me: the quiet after the storm, without taking up half the song. So, in the second case, I don't need for the frenetic pace to return, in fact everything becomes in its place.



I had similar thoughts on this. I loved how the track started, but I'd have liked to have the softer piece as an intermezzo only. The other version works much better indeed.
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My Podium:

1) Kikuo ft. Hanatan - The Girl Who Sells Misfortune
2) Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit [extended version, anyway, the second version would go on the 4th place]
3) Extrabreit - Polizisten....

For the fourth place I was undecided between
4) Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap
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Desire on Fire.

Hmmmm...

Honorable mentions:

5) Wahh World Fusion Band - Desire on Fire
6) Barney Wilen - Moshi (Too)
7) Ennio Morricone - L'Arena
8) Krypton - Fata Motgana



Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 27 2022 at 17:50
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Mini-reviews:

Morricone as always epic, in this case also ecstatic and martial in the second part. Very enjoyable.

Portished benefit as always from Beth Gibbons' fragile voice and in this case from a sober percussion / keyboard progression that brings this pop towards a dilated synth pop.

Nena - Satellitenstadt: synthetic sound that initially could have been Eurythmics, then more towards Ultravox. You hear the martial rhythm of German cabaret, sober, essential, cruel: keyboards and percussion voice. Very austere.

Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap: it is a song with a unique sound, I think a mix of acoustic instruments (perhaps ethnic) and electronic instruments. The composition is minimal, the work is all about the layering of sounds. In a certain sense we can consider it psychedelic music, a space-folk. Very adventurous.

Barney Wilen - Moshi (Too): apart from the field noises, this is a late sixties style blues jam (like Blind Faith), with a little bit of wild and tribal to it. Very good.

Kikuo ft. Hanatan - The Girl Who Sells Misfortune: song supported by an irresistible melodic progression on the keyboards and a sharp, alienating song that make it overwhelming. Added to this are the inventions of the electronic / noisy arrangement (in some places delicious, in others bordering on kitsch pleasure). Gorgeous.

Elephant9 - Throughout the Worlds: minimalist, ecstatic song, with keyboards in the foreground and soft percussion. We are from the parts of progressive electronic. Very relaxing.

Diabo na Cruz - Pioneiros (MPAGDP): good melodic song for partying in company, played with goliardic enthusiasm.
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This was a thoroughly enjoyable playlist. All tracks were wonderful. Listened a couple of times and with a random shuffle.

My votes:

Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit
Portishead - The Rip
Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap
N. Alesini & P.L. Andreoni - Khanbaligh

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit: instrumental piece of wonderful cybernetic jazz in new wave style, conducted with a frenzied rhythm, but in the middle comes a melodic interlude on the harmonica. If percussion had returned in the end it would have been a masterpiece.


I found a better and longer version of the song. I wish I found that earlier. Embarrassed
The soft ending of the song is like a moment of tranquility, I always get goosebumps when the harmonica kicks in and I've known the song for a really long while. There's no need for the drums to get back, I don't see how they could have done it. 


The piece with the harmonica, slow, melodic, is very beautiful but in the economy of a short song, like the first one you posted, it seems too dilated and immediately breaks an exciting frenetic jazz part. For this reason, I would have liked the jazz part to return.

In the second video, the piece with the harmonica comes after a much longer and more exhausting jazz part, and then it seems much better to me: the quiet after the storm, without taking up half the song. So, in the second case, I don't need for the frenetic pace to return, in fact everything becomes in its place.




Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 27 2022 at 11:44
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit: instrumental piece of wonderful cybernetic jazz in new wave style, conducted with a frenzied rhythm, but in the middle comes a melodic interlude on the harmonica. If percussion had returned in the end it would have been a masterpiece.


I found a better and longer version of the song. I wish I found that earlier. Embarrassed
The soft ending of the song is like a moment of tranquility, I always get goosebumps when the harmonica kicks in and I've known the song for a really long while. There's no need for the drums to get back, I don't see how they could have done it. 



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MINI-REVIEWS:

Laura Veirs - Secret Someones: Pop song with an oblique and slightly disturbing pop rhythm, interesting keyboard work in the background. Beautiful voice.

Extrabreit - Polizisten: pesudo-military march led by the bass, interesting work on the guitar and good vocal performance in the chorus, essential for varying an otherwise monotonous composition. Great song.

Post Scriptum - Urme De Pasi Pe Infinit: instrumental piece of wonderful cybernetic jazz in new wave style, conducted with a frenzied rhythm, but in the middle comes a melodic interlude on the harmonica. If percussion had returned in the end it would have been a masterpiece.

Krypton - Fata Motgana: Very sophisticated commercial piece, excellent bass and guitar work, reggae contamination a la Police. Very good song.

Bill Laswell - Above the Earth: Dreamy song floating in the ether, with spoken words and then electronic percussive work. In the ending, spoken words return. New age atmosphere with oriental gongs.

Wahh World Fusion Band - Desire on Fire: Indian song with an arrangement based on the sitar and on the very pregnant vocals of the singer. After two minutes comes the contamination with a western rhythm (drums accompanied by tablas), and a guitar solo worthy of a late sixties style jam blues session. A world-music / prog evolution occupy the final piece (it recalls Fateh Ali Khan in singing). Great song.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, what is this, actually: a best of the rest, the rest of the best or the best of the best? A wonderful playlist, anyway - a great pleasure to listen to, with no weak tracks!

My first three votes were rather immediate for me:
- Alesini & Andreoni - Khanbaligh; Roger Eno's and David Torn's stamp on this one is marvelous, a masterpiece.
- Kikuo ft. Hanatan - The Girl Who Sells Misfortune; I already singled this one out when it was not nominated, glad it is coming back here.
- Wahh World Fusion Band - Desire on Fire; another rich and adventurous track.

And then the trouble starts... Why give us a fourth vote? Do you really think that this makes our lives easier? It is not! Wacko Tongue
So, because I cannot choose between Laura Veirs, Extrabreit, Portishead or Elephant9, I vote for Krypton - Fata Morgana (we need rock!)...

Really great IA-poll round. Thumbs Up
(but now I'm listening to Nena's album! Heart)

 

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Definitely no weak tracks and all I really like, so it will make voting difficult and maybe a bit indiscriminate (not the word I want -- common enough word and I can't think of it and without the precise word I can't fully form the concept -- EDIT, arbitrary popped into my head and covers it well enough).  And we, or at least I, wouldn't want voting made easier.  These commonly are at their best when it's hard to make a choice (well, as long as it's because you really appreciate all rather than it's harder to find ones you really like).

I'm often in the case of these where I wish I could vote for many more, but then I would feel bad about leaving any others out.  No real regrets as long as I mostly did it my way.

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I traveled each and every highway
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I did it, I did it my way
Regrets, I've had a few
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I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption....


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So, what is this, actually: a best of the rest, the rest of the best or the best of the best? A wonderful playlist, anyway - a great pleasure to listen to, with no weak tracks!

My first three votes were rather immediate for me:
- Alesini & Andreoni - Khanbaligh; Roger Eno's and David Torn's stamp on this one is marvelous, a masterpiece.
- Kikuo ft. Hanatan - The Girl Who Sells Misfortune; I already singled this one out when it was not nominated, glad it is coming back here.
- Wahh World Fusion Band - Desire on Fire; another rich and adventurous track.

And then the trouble starts... Why give us a fourth vote? Do you really think that this makes our lives easier? It is not! Wacko Tongue
So, because I cannot choose between Laura Veirs, Extrabreit, Portishead or Elephant9, I vote for Krypton - Fata Morgana (we need rock!)...

Really great IA-poll round. Thumbs Up
(but now I'm listening to Nena's album! Heart)

 

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Classy list, great work guys!
These are pretty good: Krypton, Wahh World Fusion Band, Ennio Morricone, Portishead, Barney Wilen, Diabo Na Cruz
These I like a lot: Post Scriptum, Nena, Elephant 9
These five are really phantastic: Bill Laswell, Kaboom Karavan, CCCP, N. Alesini & P.L. Andreoni,  Kikuo ft. Hanatan

Ha, that was predictable. I can vote for four, so I find five voting candidates. I like the idea to vote for tracks by four different people, so with regret I'm not voting for CCCP, which leaves me with  Bill Laswell, Kaboom Karavan, N. Alesini & P.L. Andreoni,  Kikuo ft. Hanatan
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I have amended the nominees playlist.  Thanks George and Lorenzo. 

And thanks Mila, I have some Luis Bacalov in my collection, not Il Postino, although  have seen the film. Good stuff.
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@greg, the version of the CCCP track in the playlist is not showing up for me. The one Lorenzo has a couple of pages back does play. Can you see if it could be swapped in the playlist?

I guess this is the right one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJYyRl8BoRg


Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 26 2022 at 06:45
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