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Your Top 10 Favourite Prog Albums of 1997 |
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kenethlevine 
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 Topic: Your Top 10 Favourite Prog Albums of 1997Posted: December 12 2021 at 21:09 |
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pretty good year
Clannad - Landmarks Clepsydra - Fears Galahad - Return of the Piper Kerrs Pink - Art of Complex Simplicity Promethean - Gazing the Invisible Tempus Fugit - Tales of a Forgotten World Andreas Vollenweider - Kryptos Hon Mentions Dice - Nightmare Kad - 18.61 Red Jasper - Anagramary |
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richardh
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Posted: November 26 2021 at 01:28 |
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I had a quick look but got bored quickly (sorry). I grew up in the seventies and was well aware of what 'prog' was. Probably 90% of what is now on the site would fail the definition for all sorts of reasons. There was a point when I stopped caring about whether something called be prog or not and whether its innovative. I'm not remotely qualified to answer such questions and really you go down all sorts of rabbit holes and 'how many angels dance on the head of a pin' such arguments. What I do know is the so called 'music industry' is not for music but for money making. Literally anyone going against this is progressive. You need talent , a vision and a need to create something. Very little else counts imo. |
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richardh
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Posted: November 26 2021 at 01:22 |
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was it? It seemed you went straight for that one on the thread.
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David_D
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Posted: November 25 2021 at 08:18 |
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My main point was considering much more than just OK Computer.
And precisely speaking, it's not about what Prog is, but about what it should be considered/defined as to be - it's a decision. (for this very important distinction, maybe see my article - even I dont think, you have any need for that, richardh) http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127835&SID=6216975ab2282e7cc89bc6f99bze40384490741 ....... In the Wake of Poseidon...and not...at the black bottom of the sea... We need Prog.........right?, progardvaark?  Edit: And now, I think, I'll better move on from here - Mirakaze, sorry for all the disturbance, I don't hope, you find it meaningless.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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richardh
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Posted: November 25 2021 at 00:37 |
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as you can see I have a long history with this site I got very annoyed when the likes of Queen and 10CC started appearing (albeit under Prog related). Nowadays its not worth increasing my blood pressure over. There is a whole lot of stuff that would fail if we were taking a seventies definition. I would not stray much beyond the likes of ELP, Genesis , Marillion, Floyd and Tull if was down to me. A key thing though is 'rock'. It should be 'rock music' at least and many bands and artists fail that immediately. I mean what the eff is Kate Bush doing here? She is not prog and never was as much as I adore her. And we can go on and on and on with this argument but I won't. As Christi suggests, Radiohead is one the lesser controversial choices for prog. I remember magazine articles comparing them to Yes and Genesis. Hilarious maybe but not totally off the mark.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:52 |
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Many great ones in 97. Hard to identify which is tops.
1. Phi Yaan Zek - Worlds Beyond Cause 2. 5uus - Crisis in Clay 3. Koenji Hyakkei - ni(Viva Koenji) 4. Spastic Ink - Ink Complete 5. Happy Family - Toscco 6. Fredrik Thordendal - Sol Niger Within 7. Idiot Flesh - Fancy 8. Bondage Fruit - Récit 9. Par Lindh Project - Mondus Incopertus 10. Bozzio Levens Stevens - Black Light Syndrome |
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:05 |
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These are two of the many albums I was implying when I was talking about albums not considered prog “enough” for PA. Although, when I then checked, I see that Tuatara is in PA (and I just never knew it). I would probably call Tuatara a multi-National group, rather than a US group, though. It was formed by Barrett Martin and Justin Harwood, the latter of whom gave the project its name, and who is a Kiwi. From the initial idea from Barrett and Justin, they were joined initially by Peter Buck and Skerik, but with the idea that they would always be a floating and changing collective of musicians with influences from around the globe. After Justin left, Barrett took the reins solo and has been the only constant member that I’m aware of, but there has pretty much always been musicians from at least one country other than the US. I love Breaking the Ethers so much, so I would have to put them into my top ten for 1997. |
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:51 |
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Someone just like to go more in depth with things than that, and maybe Prog means more to them.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:10 |
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I think I’d probably find it easier to compile a top ten of not prog from 1997 than prog from 1997, simply because a lot more of my favourite albums from this year are from bands either not at all prog, or not agreed to be prog enough for PA even if sometimes recognised as such outside this site. So, sticking to prog as agreed by PA, my top ten for 1997 (in alphabetical order only) is:
Arcturus - La Masquerade Infernale Art Zoyd - Häxan David Bowie - Earthling Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity Höyry-Kone - Huono Parturi In the Woods… - Omnio Koenji Hyakkei- Two Mansun - Attack of the Grey Lantern Radiohead - OK Computer The Tea Party - Transmission Now to go back and see what I have missed, by looking through the lists on the preceding pages! |
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 06:38 |
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It's really just a fun poll, it's not that much of a deal.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:24 |
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I'm curious when we see the next list actually.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:16 |
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I honestly do not understand why you are upset here.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:15 |
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Now, you really want to see my heart bleeding.
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Cristi
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:13 |
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I don't understand. How are you suffering? And why?
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:11 |
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How much do you want me to suffer?
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Cristi
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:05 |
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so brutal  Check out some of those lists and you'll see what I mean.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 01:56 |
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If you say that to comfort me, you failed.
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Cristi
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 01:49 |
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Radiohead is the least offensive entry in any list considering some of the artists/bands I've seen in these '80s and '90s lists.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 01:39 |
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We are some, and maybe not so few, which have very different view of it.
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:39 |
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Oh good yet another discussion about 'what is prog' . Don't we just love those lol. I remember immediately thinking when Paranoid Android was released that prog had returned . a lot of other people thought the same , so much so that Radiohead were more than a little embarrassed by it.
In the seventies 'prog' had a much narrower definition and was applied mainly to the symphonic bands ELP, Yes etc. It has gradually widened over the years to the point where its just 'interesting rock music' that avoids the mainstream. Don't sweat it!
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