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    Posted: April 18 2021 at 02:40
Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.

Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch


That is rhubarb.
Well, from that reply and several others it appears I'm in a minority of one in wanting to see Annie Haslam added to ProgArchives. Confused

By the way, Roger, I happen to like Kenny G and Toni Braxton, but I know they're about as related to prog as Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" album is. Wink


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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.

Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch


That is rhubarb.

Why, surely her solo work doesn't have anything to do with prog.  Next we'll be including Kenny G or Toni Braxton in prog-related.
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No band is integral or essential. It's about personal preferences.

True. I once knew a guy who seemed to like every prog band except Yes.
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.

Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch


That is rhubarb.

thank you for that insult, so kind... Dead
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.

Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.


Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch

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The OP is probably aware of the Illusion albums but they might be a good suggestion for the "Mary Poppins" haters.

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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.

Sadly, Annie Haslam has already been rejected for inclusion in PA after I suggested she be added last year. Ouch


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Check out Illusion's two albums with Jane Relf..
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

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How integral is Renaissance for prog listening? For me, not at all. I have "Scheherazade And Other Stories" and do like the album. It kind of reminds me of Jefferson Starship. But it is not an essential part of my music collection.
 
Jefferson Starship? Really?


Perhaps he means Renaissance is to prog as Jefferson Starship is to rock. If you accidentally drop a Starship CD out of your car window, you probably won't waste the money to replace it. Nice here and there, but really not anything to be upset about.
Speak for yourself. Ashes, Turn Of the Cards and A Song For All Seasons are three of my favorite albums. I can't say that about any Starship albums except for perhaps Red Octopus.

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My personal experience is if. I enjoy the music than that’s fabulous. But if not than that isn’t worth worrying about.


Indeed there are bands that are beloved of many prog fans that I just cannot get into (however much I try) such as Gentle Giant, VDGG, Gong, and indeed much of the Canterbury sub-genre, apart from Caravan, doesn't really press my buttons.

It's horses for courses.






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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

My personal experience is if. I enjoy the music than that’s fabulous. But if not than that isn’t worth worrying about.


Indeed there are bands that are beloved of many prog fans that I just cannot get into (however much I try) such as Gentle Giant, VDGG, Gong, and indeed much of the Canterbury sub-genre, apart from Caravan, doesn't really press my buttons.

It's horses for courses.


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Annie's solo catalogue is more than decent too - I don't think she's made a bad album yet. The most proggy is probably 'Annie in Wonderland' which was largely a collaboration with Roy Wood. Though why she hasn't got her own entry on this site, maybe under 'prog related' is a bit of a mystery.


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Also, Annie has put together an admirable touring group that has proven equal to the task of performing the classic material in the last 10-15 years.  The several live DVDs prove that, and their eagerness to vary the live set has been met with enthusiasm from a still loyal and decent sized audience in the US Northeast.  This has helped their legacy
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For me Renaissance are among bands that are essential prog from the classic era of the genre, but were somewhat overlooked, just like Gentle Giant, Camel, Caravan, Van Der Graaf Generator. Renaissance fits nicely with the pack.  Not worst than some obvious names, maybe less influential as their fanbase was considerably smaller and their aesthetic somewhat unique, but the same can be said about any of the above-mentioned bands. I love all of them and will put them on any top prog list along with Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, ELP and Jethro Tull. As much as I love Pink Floyd I would struggle to restrict their style to prog, so Renaissance fits there even better for me. 
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Prologue and Ashes are fantastic lps that perhaps didnt get the initial success that they should have in UK (their classic status came with time) and that pushed them to look for commercial success overseas (they certainly weren't unique in that..) I think that Annie Haslems voice and Betty Thatchers lyrics certainly made something very unique that became an essential part of the progressive rock canon with time.. 



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I would say there are parts of Prologue and Ashes that seem a bit similar to Jefferson Airplane but I don't hear the Starship comparison.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

How integral is Renaissance for prog listening? For me, not at all. I have "Scheherazade And Other Stories" and do like the album. It kind of reminds me of Jefferson Starship. But it is not an essential part of my music collection.
 
Jefferson Starship? Really?
 
Well, "Trip To The Fair" sounds like something from Mary Poppins, but other parts did bring to my mind Jefferson Starship, though I didn't want to suggest a strong similarity.
 
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

How integral is Renaissance for prog listening? For me, not at all. I have "Scheherazade And Other Stories" and do like the album. It kind of reminds me of Jefferson Starship. But it is not an essential part of my music collection.
 


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