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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29670 |
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Getting Geddy Lee's gender wrong (and seriously annoying an avid Rush fan at school!)
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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I think Indian ragas often use microintervals (quarter notes and things like that), so that is partly a different issue. Blue notes count as microintervals too btw.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Mind blown. I have difficulty reproducing ragas like Thodi on a keyboard and I can sort of see why.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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I never knew this. I found some interesting stuff on Youtube demonstrating it, like this.
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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It goes for C# and Db as well. And for D# and Eb, B# and C, E# and F, Cb and B, and so on. Before equal temperament became standard, several other keyboard tunings were used (f.e. the quarter-comma meantone which was common in the 1500 and 1600 years), and they of course limited the possibilities of key changes and harmonic excesses). Bach's Das Wohltemperierte Klavier (The Well-Tempered Clavier) is only possible with equal temperament.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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Mind blown. I honestly didn't believe you and had to dig a bit, and even though others are saying the same thing, I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. So is it only those two notes, F# & Gb? Like, are A# and Bb the same? Or C# and Db? Because a piece I read implied it's only F# & Gb...?
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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That F sharp and G flat are the same note. I found out around the age of 10 that they are not. It's just that in tempered tuning they are harmonized so that they can be played with the same key on a keyboard instrument, or on the same fret on a guitar etc. But on principle, tempered tuning is a little bit out of tune.
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jude111 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 20 2009 Location: Not Here Status: Offline Points: 1754 |
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"Girl bands & boy bands suck." I'm eating my words big-time these days, after discovering amazing K-Pop bands, singles, and producers over the last month or so that I quite love. I mean, I'm well-hooked, like, it's all I'm listening to these days. All of my assumptions and misconceptions have been thrown out the window. What's so exciting about K-Pop - or at least, the stuff I can't get enough of (which seems to be at least 5 songs per year, every year going back to about 2009), is how much the music can turn on a dime within a 3 minute pop song. K-Pop, seemingly so accessible, can be quite avant-garde, post-modern, experimental, and musically adventurous in the way it plays with genres (electro, synthpop, hip-hop, shibuya-kei, bubblegum, EDM and dubstep, etc.). Even though it's futuristic, it's usually optimistic, unlike Western pop music these days, which is often dystopian.
Granted, most of it's not to my taste, but I've found enough of it, and keep discovering more, that really brightens my days and keeps me excited about music being made today. Whenever one builds up hype for something, people are almost always disappointed, but keeping this in mind, these are some of the tunes that got me into it and opened up a new world for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lSP8Vc3o&list=PLYsvSaANzpR-8TOjMcOWNa24HhMyd4cgw&index=1
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I used to be under the impression that both Supertramp and The Bee Gees were American
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Cambus741 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 12 2015 Location: Chelmsford Status: Offline Points: 1226 |
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years and years ago I was under the impression that Queen were a heavy metal band.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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I wasn't aware about the bass drums, and that drummers play with their feet as well as their hands. So, while I was air drumming, I was accompanying everything with my hands.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15216 |
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Good point that. I never felt remotely good enough to be a pro musician but had it seemed realistic at the age of 18 or so, I may have made the mistake to jump into it. Quite happy that I didn't.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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When I was a kid, I had an annoyingly loud voice. My mum was literally turning her head towards some other directions when I was telling her something with enthusiasm. Then, I became a teenager... I was thinking that I have a super talking and singing voice, until... I recorded my voice to a cassette. It was a massive frustration... Then, I worked on my vocal technique (by myself) at university, and became an accomplished amateur singer. AND my voice became annoyingly loud again. I was warned many times by my teachers, during our free intervals because of this; while everyone of us were chatting. Even when speaking normally, my voice was always loud. But my teachers also were giving me the job of reading texts to the class.
Now, I accept myself as I am. No complaints or anything... I think maturity is a good thing. Who would want to live with their wrong assumptions forever? |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65701 |
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I guess what I'm saying is nothing is what it seems, and frankly even the working musicians I know, the ones who have no recording deal and are lucky to book a few regular gigs, are not necessarily living their best life. As for the bigger artists, there's a price. Suddenly you have to deliver, big time. It can be a burden that turns making music into a full-time job. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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When I was a kid I thought the “producer” listed on the album was like a conductor for an orchestra. I used to grab a couple of spoons and pretend I was Tony Clarke “producing” for the Moody Blues.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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I couldn't be sure what you mean here. I have my strong guesses, but I'd rather be sure. Can you clarify please? |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65701 |
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Probably that working pros have a great career doing what they want and getting paid for it. Doesn't really work that way. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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