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    Posted: January 19 2018 at 17:13
Just for the record, Katatonia were actually added to the site some time during the summer of 2016 with five 'yes' votes and one 'abstain' from the six-man prog metal team, but no announcement was made in this thread at the time. You can find their page at http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9887.
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IMO a 3 way tie between their latest 3 albums.  The Fall of Hearts, Dead End Kings, and Night is the New Day.  Phenomenal albums.  I consider them to have prog elements. 
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Points: 4671 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2017 at 19:51
I think only their first two have harsh vocals.
Anyway, start with their latest, The Fall of Hearts.
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I've seen Katatonia a few times. but I don't have any of their albums.  I know I prefer the clean vocals.  So which clean vocal album do you think is their best?
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Agree with everyone else - VERY surprised Katatonia aren't already in the ranks.
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I think Katatonia plays Prog Metal as well as Anathema, for example.
I really don't understand why they aren't considered as prog players...
We accept math rock as prog and not this GREAT band?
Please, listen to their last album (The fall of hearts) and judge...
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Points: 8 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2016 at 13:51
The new album is Prog!
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Points: 3407 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2016 at 11:37
This subject is a bit more debatable now because of the new album, which takes much more influence from progressive rock. Then again, they already started gravitating toward that direction with Dead End Kings, so I suppose we'll see
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Points: 141 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2016 at 07:41
Viva Emptiness is also prog-metal/rock masterpiece, even the new album The Fall Of Hearts is easely excellent in a progressive way, I would like to see Katatonia on this site ...
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Don't worry, if it is indeed Prog Metal no one will need to ask the team, Katatonia has an undercover agent in place already Wink
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Well rumour says the new album is more progressive inclined, but someone needs to formally ask the PM team if they want to evaluate Katatonia Again. The rules say that they can only be evaluated on the grounds of the new album, as they´ve been rejected before on the basis of everything released before that album. Agree or not, that´s the rules.
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The fact that Katatonia has not yet been included on this site even after each album becomes more complex than the last just blows me away. Arguably the most atmospheric and layered music out there - just listen to "Shifts" from the new album. I bet they have more Prog followers than Metalheads these days. Put them on the site so we can discuss their excellent Progressive Metal or even Prog Related discography. That is all!
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Points: 467 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 23:36
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


I disagree
Even Riverside's last two albums are more complex than what Katatonia ever did.


You are entitled to disagree.  While I enjoy Love, Fear and the Time Machine, there is nothing that complex about it.  It has some nice basslines and excellent vocals, but is rather less complex than just about any Katatonia album.
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Points: 45911 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 05:05
Originally posted by javajeff javajeff wrote:

Katatonia's stripped down Dethroned & Uncrowned is identical to Riverside's minimal metal: Love, Fear and the Time Machine.  Great song writing and excellent vocals on both, with mellow arrangements.


I disagree
Even Riverside's last two albums are more complex than what Katatonia ever did.
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Katatonia's stripped down Dethroned & Uncrowned is identical to Riverside's minimal metal: Love, Fear and the Time Machine.  Great song writing and excellent vocals on both, with mellow arrangements.
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Points: 45911 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 03:58
Originally posted by billwilly billwilly wrote:

There are many, many, many bands that do not feet in PA (Iron Maiden, 10CC for instance), yet they are here. So, Katatonia, especially their last albums have more closeness to many bands in the progressive side that are in the archives and fit, like Anathema, Opeth, etc. They claim themselves being prog, so why not giving them a try.


Iron Maiden and 10CC are under prog-related, so I don't see a problem with that.
Both Anathema and Opeth are bit more experimental than Katatonia. I like Katatonia, but they could just be here under prog-related I guess (don't think anyone would do that as prog-related is already pretty controversial LOL)
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Points: 3073 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 03:24
The rules for additon on PA is that once an artist has been rejected from a sub genre, they can´t be re-evaluated Again for the same sub genre until they release a new album, that the genre team feels is progressive enough to warrant their addition to the site. In the case of Katatonia, that would mean suggesting their addition on the merits of their yet to be released new album, when it comes out. It´s the only way in for Katatonia, and personally I doubt that the new album will be more "progressive" in nature than what they have put out in the past, and since the progressive metal team has not deemed their previous releases progressive enough for Katatonia to be added, I doubt they´ll be added this time around. But by all means keep the PMT busy WinkThumbs UpBig smile
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Points: 3 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2016 at 16:46
There are many, many, many bands that do not feet in PA (Iron Maiden, 10CC for instance), yet they are here. So, Katatonia, especially their last albums have more closeness to many bands in the progressive side that are in the archives and fit, like Anathema, Opeth, etc. They claim themselves being prog, so why not giving them a try.
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Points: 467 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2016 at 11:00
Well, it is probably not worth the fight.  As a prog fan, they fit into my tastes nicely.
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Points: 3073 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2016 at 03:07
Originally posted by javajeff javajeff wrote:

I hope to get that album next.  :)  Everyone says the same thing.  They should at least be prog related on this site.  I really do not care about how the site labels them.  People WANT to write reviews for their albums.
I´ve participated in many of the previous Katatonia discussions as I also believe they belong here, but there is a strong opposition against their additions here, so I´ve let it go. If you really want to write reviews of their albums you can always visit PAs sister site MMA (http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/katatonia/?ac=katato) where Katatonia is featured.
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