Katatonia for Progressive Metal
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Topic: Katatonia for Progressive Metal
Posted By: javajeff
Subject: Katatonia for Progressive Metal
Date Posted: March 20 2016 at 10:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFnl66jmnU While they cross many genres, they have similar roots to Anathema with Doom metal. I think they fit nicely into Progressive Metal and can tour with Progressive Metal groups. I do not know the reasoning for why they are not here, but I can tell you that if they are added, they will get many reviews based on their popularity with PA members. |
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: March 20 2016 at 13:43
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This is probably the thirty-second time they've been suggested. So good luck! They do have a new album out soon, so I suppose its as good a time as any.  ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 05:04
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There is a reason they have been suggested so many times. The readers of this site that listen to Progressive Metal, listen to Katatonia. I am not saying that every metal act be added, but they clearly have connections at the very least. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 05:35
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 11:43
| I love Katatonia, but I don't think they are really progressive metal at all. I've always seen them as alternative metal in the vein of bands like 10 Years. |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 20:37
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I don’t think they are alternative metal at all. I think their layers of ambiance is quite progressive. They progress the genre. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 22 2016 at 02:54
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they are NOT alternative but not that progressive either. Maybe prog-related |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 22 2016 at 05:35
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They are a bit Prog Metal but not Prog Metal enough to have ever reached a unanimous Yes vote from the prog metal team. Personally I think they merit a Yes for the album 'Brave Murder Day' and the mathy/proggy riffing and rhythms in later albums, but most of my buddies in the team feel their songwriting is too straightforward to be considered Prog Metal (which is a strong argument admitted) |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 23 2016 at 18:57
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The band posted this description of themselves on their Facebook post: Katatonia, the Swedish purveyors of dark progressive rock/metal, who this week announced details of their eagerly awaited 10th studio album... It is a shame that they are not listed here. |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: March 25 2016 at 03:19
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I'd say their newest album (Dead End Kings) is the most progressive they've ever gotten. Either way, I'd say they're only prog-related at most; they always struck me more as an alternative/doom metal band. However, with that said, I DO love the band. Last Fair Deal Gone Down is one of my favorite albums of all time. ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 04:58
| I hope to get that album next. :) Everyone says the same thing. They should at least be prog related on this site. I really do not care about how the site labels them. People WANT to write reviews for their albums. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 05:05
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They don't stand a chance in prog related. This sub is only for bands that either influenced prog rock on a large scale or similarly made their mark on the genre. Katatonia can't claim either. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 15:20
I'm gonna have to agree with Guldbamsen on this one. Katatonia have had a few prog elements here and there, but I just don't think it's enough. There have been a few bands I'm willing to fight for in terms of inclusion (such as Nevermore or X Japan), but Katatonia is not really one of them ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 16:39
Then again, Katatonia is certainly a better candidate than Mudvayne, who a few people have tried to get on the site before. That one's just comical  ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: March 27 2016 at 03:07
I´ve participated in many of the previous Katatonia discussions as I also believe they belong here, but there is a strong opposition against their additions here, so I´ve let it go. If you really want to write reviews of their albums you can always visit PAs sister site MMA ( http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/katatonia/?ac=katato" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/katatonia/?ac=katato ) where Katatonia is featured. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 27 2016 at 11:00
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Well, it is probably not worth the fight. As a prog fan, they fit into my tastes nicely. |
Posted By: billwilly
Date Posted: March 30 2016 at 16:46
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There are many, many, many bands that do not feet in PA (Iron Maiden, 10CC for instance), yet they are here. So, Katatonia, especially their last albums have more closeness to many bands in the progressive side that are in the archives and fit, like Anathema, Opeth, etc. They claim themselves being prog, so why not giving them a try. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 03:24
The rules for additon on PA is that once an artist has been rejected from a sub genre, they can´t be re-evaluated Again for the same sub genre until they release a new album, that the genre team feels is progressive enough to warrant their addition to the site. In the case of Katatonia, that would mean suggesting their addition on the merits of their yet to be released new album, when it comes out. It´s the only way in for Katatonia, and personally I doubt that the new album will be more "progressive" in nature than what they have put out in the past, and since the progressive metal team has not deemed their previous releases progressive enough for Katatonia to be added, I doubt they´ll be added this time around. But by all means keep the PMT busy   ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 03:58
Iron Maiden and 10CC are under prog-related, so I don't see a problem with that. Both Anathema and Opeth are bit more experimental than Katatonia. I like Katatonia, but they could just be here under prog-related I guess (don't think anyone would do that as prog-related is already pretty controversial ) |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 05:02
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Katatonia's stripped down Dethroned & Uncrowned is identical to Riverside's minimal metal: Love, Fear and the Time Machine. Great song writing and excellent vocals on both, with mellow arrangements. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 05:05
I disagree Even Riverside's last two albums are more complex than what Katatonia ever did. |
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 23:36
You are entitled to disagree. While I enjoy Love, Fear and the Time Machine, there is nothing that complex about it. It has some nice basslines and excellent vocals, but is rather less complex than just about any Katatonia album. |
Posted By: Machine Messiah
Date Posted: May 23 2016 at 16:54
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The fact that Katatonia has not yet been included on this site even after each album becomes more complex than the last just blows me away. Arguably the most atmospheric and layered music out there - just listen to "Shifts" from the new album. I bet they have more Prog followers than Metalheads these days. Put them on the site so we can discuss their excellent Progressive Metal or even Prog Related discography. That is all! ------------- www.myspace.com/aegeasynergy |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: May 24 2016 at 06:15
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Well rumour says the new album is more progressive inclined, but someone needs to formally ask the PM team if they want to evaluate Katatonia Again. The rules say that they can only be evaluated on the grounds of the new album, as they´ve been rejected before on the basis of everything released before that album. Agree or not, that´s the rules. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 02:50
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Don't worry, if it is indeed Prog Metal no one will need to ask the team, Katatonia has an undercover agent in place already |
Posted By: alienshore
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 07:41
| Viva Emptiness is also prog-metal/rock masterpiece, even the new album The Fall Of Hearts is easely excellent in a progressive way, I would like to see Katatonia on this site ... |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 11:37
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This subject is a bit more debatable now because of the new album, which takes much more influence from progressive rock. Then again, they already started gravitating toward that direction with Dead End Kings, so I suppose we'll see ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: sammol
Date Posted: June 03 2016 at 13:51
| The new album is Prog! |
Posted By: Hugh
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 02:00
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I think Katatonia plays Prog Metal as well as Anathema, for example. I really don't understand why they aren't considered as prog players... We accept math rock as prog and not this GREAT band? Please, listen to their last album (The fall of hearts) and judge...
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Posted By: stoopid
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 14:01
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Agree with everyone else - VERY surprised Katatonia aren't already in the ranks. ------------- http://www.boogeypro.com" rel="nofollow - Boogeymen Productions http://www.the-boogeymen.com" rel="nofollow - The Boogeymen |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 16:03
| I've seen Katatonia a few times. but I don't have any of their albums. I know I prefer the clean vocals. So which clean vocal album do you think is their best? |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 19:51
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I think only their first two have harsh vocals. Anyway, start with their latest, The Fall of Hearts. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: fracturematt
Date Posted: January 19 2018 at 13:24
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IMO a 3 way tie between their latest 3 albums. The Fall of Hearts, Dead End Kings, and Night is the New Day. Phenomenal albums. I consider them to have prog elements. |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 19 2018 at 17:13
| Just for the record, Katatonia were actually added to the site some time during the summer of 2016 with five 'yes' votes and one 'abstain' from the six-man prog metal team, but no announcement was made in this thread at the time. You can find their page at http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9887" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9887 . |