Prog albums - CD vs. vinyl

In the late 90s I did a 'remaster' my self using a program called Pristine Sounds.

The CD and redbook will not get any better than what it is now. Within the audio world, there is no work being done to develop a better sounding CD, remember it is 16bit/redbook format, it will never get any better. Where the focus is on is high resolution files like 24bit and higher, DSD and the new MQA format.

like most of yous here I have a mix of vinyl`s/cd`s there are the pros and cons for both! but I prefer vinyl this maybe because through out my teenage years you only had Tapes, 8tracks or vinyl... 

I prefer the record version of Living in the Past by Jethro Tull to the CD version, aside from the great band pictures there are songs on the album which do not appear on the CD.

I used to see Tales on sale constantly in the record buying daze. One shop in a rather derogatory manner sold copies for 83 cents.

So now I find out Revealing Science has an intro. Hmm. Just when I thought my Japanese import would do...

I once put an "idea" out that recordings should be treated like software with free or low cost upgrades given the proof of a purchased copy.

This is why I would love everything in hi res audio. Complete beautiful sound, no interruptions, no clicks and no dodgy old records mastered from ??generation tape or some digital mastering by someone who is used to shrill sounds. So it's not fair to compare? Yes it is. With format availability, cost and easy free access then make the best audio available.

Perhaps some recordings should sound fine on CD rather than DVD but it's nice to find out. If people are so concerned about sound quality rather than using this as an idea to fetishize art work then we would have hi res audio. So long as the mastering is done well then a good digital copy, preferably hi res will do me best. Records? Tapes? For a while I was nearly sold on the idea until I tried it one last time and found the whole experience frankly dated.

The one thing that makes me laugh is some loving high quality remasters but only in mono. Now there is something unnatural  - unless it is Bob Dylan with guitar, vocal, harp, cymbals on his own. Mono is preferred to hideous stereo mastering but as you don't get that now and certainly not in prog rock.

Oh and while my system is far from the high end I do think the Genesis remasters sound superb. Foxtrot now sounds like the tape heads have been demagnetized.

Oh one other thing, the plural of vinyl is vinyl.

^ I haven't played 'Yessongs' in a long time......my vinyl copy is an original and interestingly that is a very common used album I see in the old vinyl stores. 

dr wu23 wrote: BunBun wrote: I know this topic is a little old, but as a 22 year old female, I would go with vinyl any day. Most of the vinyl that I have whether it is a new album I just bought or it is an album from the seventies, it sounds great to me. My brand x vinyl sound great, but there are exceptions like my yes CTTE vinyl does sound muddy, which I have been meaning to buy the new remastered vinyl. Anyways, once I got into Genesis, I began to buy vinyl. I am one of those who grew up listening to pop music and I just did digital everything. Now I am pro vinyl because something about vinyl makes me feel much more involved with the music and getting into prog made me appreciate all the work that goes into the music. I love the big artworks, the feel of the vinyl, having to pull the vinyl out and drop the needle on it. It's a lot of fun, much more so than going on my Mp3 and playing each song for 30 seconds. Vinyl forces me to sit down and relax and just enjoy the album, yet I still will buy CDs because not everything is available on vinyl. Anyways, just how I feel about it. Welcome to PA ...... And that's how I feel at times in that it is fun to play vinyl when I have the time. But most of my listening the past few years is on the road to and from work so it's kind of hard to play vinyl in the car. I do get the chance on the weekends to play vinyl in our 'stereo room' in the basement and for that I play used vinyl from the old days because I don't spend money on reissues no matter what the quality is supposed to be regarding the sound.  I want to save the cash and hunt for that old obscure prog or psych vinyl at record shops near me for the fun of it,  but I'm not so into the 'vinyl experience' that I want to spend money on new issue vinyl.  And as always this is a subjective thing.

Thanks for the welcome,and I definitely hear you on the reissue thing. I really only buy reissues if I have to have the album and if I know I'm not going to find it in great shape for like 3-5 dollars. The money reason is part of why i havent yet bought that Yes CTTE reissue lol even though I keep thinking I will even after like a whole year. I think, gee, i only spent 3 dollars on the vinyl why spend an extra 25 dollars for the same album. But I am glad for some of the reissues like I got Banco's Darwin on album for about $14, i dont think Im likely to find one in a record shop around my area anytime soon.

Anyways, I have a lot of music on MP3 because it is nice to have it on the go or when im going somewhere, but i rarely ever listen to a whole album on my MP3. It can be hard to find time for vinyl listening, but since i dont have too many responsibilities im lucky in that i do get some good time throughout the week to listen to my vinyl collection

I know this topic is a little old, but as a 22 year old female, I would go with vinyl any day. Most of the vinyl that I have whether it is a new album I just bought or it is an album from the seventies, it sounds great to me. My brand x vinyl sound great, but there are exceptions like my yes CTTE vinyl does sound muddy, which I have been meaning to buy the new remastered vinyl. Anyways, once I got into Genesis, I began to buy vinyl. I am one of those who grew up listening to pop music and I just did digital everything.

Now I am pro vinyl because something about vinyl makes me feel much more involved with the music and getting into prog made me appreciate all the work that goes into the music. I love the big artworks, the feel of the vinyl, having to pull the vinyl out and drop the needle on it. It's a lot of fun, much more so than going on my Mp3 and playing each song for 30 seconds. Vinyl forces me to sit down and relax and just enjoy the album, yet I still will buy CDs because not everything is available on vinyl. Anyways, just how I feel about it.

I usually go with vinyl, but there are exceptions.
 
In fact, I'm on a terrible dilemma at the moment. A fella in Poland is sellilng a new vinyl reissue of Moving Gelatine Plates' debut album for what would make about 12$. On Ebay, the CD of that album costs 12$ and it is a pretty rare vinyl. However, I've been hip for the band's music for about a week really and am sort of scared that this might be a sort of an impulse to buy it. But it is a good deal, isn't it? Help?

Early, not remastered CDs, often sounds better then CDs made after 1995 which often are destroyed by compression and brick wall limiting and in later years also noise reduction. So it's really not a case between LP vs CD, it's a case about flat transfers or ones that has been tweaked and tempered with.