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Poll Question: which of the sci-fi/adventure movies by Disney do you like
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    Posted: September 19 2010 at 04:47
I have seen them all and enjoyd them all, I liked the twists and the braveity of Disney studio to make theis movies which are in manny ways untraditional for Disney in humour (in the wein of Emperors New Groove), quicker jokes, deeper plot, darker, not so handsome, wierd lead roles
 
espessially Milo in Atlantis (voiced by Michael J Fox with exelency), is a nerd, geek, and an expert in gibrish, gets the princess (or godess Shocked ), whom is 10000 years old Confused, but looks good, and the other sidekicks are realy funny. and Avatar owe Atlantis for their plot
 
Treasure Island was also a plesant suprise, I was abit sceptical but that movie was quite good I think, but not as good as Atlantis.
 
and Lilo and Stich is such a great movie with lots of lots of suprisess and turns, heatbraking moments
 
but Atlantis is my favourite Big smile 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 05:36
I'm also a Disney junkie. The sci-fi films were not exactly my cup of tea, but from the above list I've enjoyed Treasure Planet the most.
Oddly enough, now that you mentioned The Emperor's New Groove, that is one of my all time favourites despite the childish and somewhat silly humor.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 12:29
I voted for Atlantis
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 13:46
Up!?!

Isn't is science fiction to tie a massive amount of balloons to a house and float it so South America only to find strange creatures and dogs fitted with collars that translate their speech into English?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2010 at 02:29
I dont beleeve that only three persons have seen this three movies
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2010 at 03:12
Some of the imagery from Treasure Planet actually inspired the look of one of a world in one of my books. Guess that counts. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2010 at 23:27
ah cool what do you write sci-fi, fantasy, horror, crime.
 
what are the titles of your work, is it available to be picked up
 
and have You seen Atlantis, I am certain the one mr Jim Cameron might have taken some ideas from that film... i just sugest the possibilaty


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:15
I honestly believe Disney Studios are the worst thing that could happen to movie industry.
 
For God's sake, they sell dramatic classics with a happy ending (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
 
If it wasn't enough, they change history (Anastaxcia).
 
I believe that teaching fake history to kids and distorting the classics is worst than avoiding them. Can't stand Disney movies after Fantasia.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:39
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I honestly believe Disney Studios are the worst thing that could happen to movie industry.
 
For God's sake, they sell dramatic classics with a happy ending (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
 
If it wasn't enough, they change history (Anastaxcia).
 
I believe that teaching fake history to kids and distorting the classics is worst than avoiding them. Can't stand Disney movies after Fantasia.
 
Iván

Anastasia was by 20th Century Fox. 

And no film based on history accurately depicts it. It's fantasy. It's entertainment. Your Notre Dame gripe is especially hilarious, since the 1939 classic everyone loves also featured a butchered, happier ending. To act as if Disney is a special case makes me think you must be intentionally trolling this thread. I mean, the topic isn't even about the studio, it's about three specific films made by the studio. 

Somehow, when I saw your name in here, before even reading your post, I knew you going to say something outlandish. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:41
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

ah cool what do you write sci-fi, fantasy, horror, crime.
 
what are the titles of your work, is it available to be picked up
 
and have You seen Atlantis, I am certain the one mr Jim Cameron might have taken some ideas from that film... i just sugest the possibilaty

I'm not a good enough writer to have anything published. I just do it for fun. And I write in any genre I find interesting.

And Cameron rips off everybody, so your suspicions are most likely correct. I did see Atlantis a couple of times. Not a bad film. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 07:20
I always thought Treasure Planet was pretty good but haven't seen any of them since the kids outgrew Disney.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 08:10

you can never outgrowe a Disney movei (at least not the 90s films, they are so layerd you will be supriced of what are being said or refered to in some scenes Approve)

like in Aladdin where the sultan blesses Allah atleast 3 times during the movie
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 09:49
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


Anastasia was by 20th Century Fox. 

And no film based on history accurately depicts it. It's fantasy. It's entertainment. Your Notre Dame gripe is especially hilarious, since the 1939 classic everyone loves also featured a butchered, happier ending. To act as if Disney is a special case makes me think you must be intentionally trolling this thread. I mean, the topic isn't even about the studio, it's about three specific films made by the studio. 

Somehow, when I saw your name in here, before even reading your post, I knew you going to say something outlandish. 
 
Honestly believed Anastasia was Disney movie,but no matter, I have the worst opinion of Disney studios.
 
And no I'm not trolling a thread, I'm giving an honest opinion ofwhat Disney is, or...Do you only want positive opinions?
 
When a thread about ELP or Dream Theater and even Yes or Genesis is open, some members say one of this bands is crap, mediocre, or whatever, ando nobody says a word..Because this is a free opinion forum.
 
If that changes, this will cease to be an opinion forum and turn into a fan club.
 
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Somehow, when I saw your name in here, before even reading your post, I knew you going to say something outlandish. 
 
Maybe because I always say what I believe without hiding my opinions
 
People has gioven worst opinions about Disney here, and you said nothing, seems you don't like my posts and honestly I don't give a damn about it, I will always give my honest opinion..
 
If you want hypocrisy, then don't read my posts.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 11:36
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I honestly believe Disney Studios are the worst thing that could happen to movie industry.
 

I know it's your opinion, but I can't believe someone would say that of the Studios that owns Pixar (a studio that has given as the greatest masterpieces of animation of this era), plus classics like Fantasia, Pinnochio, Beauty and The Beast, etc, etc. 


By the way, I think all the movies listed above suck. Disney in the 00's (sans Pixar) does kind of suck. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 11:42
I vote Lilo and Stitch. What an original, charming film.


Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I honestly believe Disney Studios are the worst thing that could happen to movie industry.
 
For God's sake, they sell dramatic classics with a happy ending (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
 
If it wasn't enough, they change history (Anastaxcia).
 
I believe that teaching fake history to kids and distorting the classics is worst than avoiding them. Can't stand Disney movies after Fantasia.
 
Iván


I share your horror at the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but probably just because it's one of my favorite novels.
However, Disney has made enough timeless classics (Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Fantasia, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, not to mention all the Pixar stuff) that I am willing to overlook their ocassional missteps.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 15:54
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I vote Lilo and Stitch. What an original, charming film.


I share your horror at the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but probably just because it's one of my favorite novels.
However, Disney has made enough timeless classics (Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Fantasia, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, not to mention all the Pixar stuff) that I am willing to overlook their ocassional missteps.
 
I honestly can't understand people, Christian Vander is accused of having sympathy for Hitler without any evidence, and some say they can't listen him any more, but on the other hand a well known fascist as Walt Disney who had no problems accusing David Hilberman (And I believe 9 more ex colleagues) with the House Un-American Activities Committee, is a hero.

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The Testimony of Walter E. Disney
Before the House Committee on
Un-American Activities
24 October, 1947

(FRAGMENT)

HAS: Can you name any other individuals that were active at the time
of the strike that you believe in your opinion are Communists?

WD: Well, I feel that there is one artist in my plant, that came in
there, he came in about 1938, and he sort of stayed in the background,
he wasn't too active, but he was the real brains of this, and I
believe he is a Communist. His name is David Hilberman.

HAS: How is it spelled?

WD: H-i-l-b-e-r-m-a-n, I believe. I looked into his record and I found
that, number 1, that he had no religion and, number 2, that he had
spent considerable time at the Moscow Art Theatre studying art
direction, or something.

HAS: Any others, Mr. Disney?

WD: Well, I think Sorrell is sure tied up with them. If he isn't a
Communist, he sure should be one.

HAS: Do you remember the name of William Pomerance, did he have
anything to do with it?

WD: Yes, sir. He came in later. Sorrell put him in charge as business
manager of cartoonists and later he went to the Screen Actors as their
business agent, and in turn he put in another man by the name of
Maurice Howard, the present business agent. And they are all tied up
with the same outfit.

HAS: What is your opinion of Mr. Pomerance and Mr. Howard as to
whether or not they are or are not Communists?

WD: In my opinion they are Communists. No one has any way of proving
those things.

Even when I'm clearly anti-Communist, I can't accept witch hunts and much less respect those who to protect their a$$e$ sell their friends and colleagues.

Disney is part of the monopoly of the RIAA, a company that had no troubles suing Sony in the famous Betamax Case, and later joined with Sony to protect their interests in the record industry

Now, I love FANTASIA and consider it a masterpiece as some of his early works, but genius doesn't justify other abuses.

And about the movies, I have no respect for those who distort history and classics.

This are my arguments
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 17:52
Lilo and Stitch. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 18:00
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
I honestly can't understand people, Christian Vander is accused of having sympathy for Hitler without any evidence, and some say they can't listen him any more, but on the other hand a well known fascist as Walt Disney who had no problems accusing David Hilberman (And I believe 9 more ex colleagues) with the House Un-American Activities Committee, is a hero.

Disney being the massive prick that he was has nothing to do with whether or not I can enjoy his studio's films. Hell, my favorite Disney works came out a very long time after the man was already deceased. Am I suppose to denounce and reject the studio's films simply because the founder was a nutcase? I like the damn films, and I'm not ashamed of it. Who cares about Walt Disney? I certainly don't. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 18:46
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
I honestly can't understand people, Christian Vander is accused of having sympathy for Hitler without any evidence, and some say they can't listen him any more, but on the other hand a well known fascist as Walt Disney who had no problems accusing David Hilberman (And I believe 9 more ex colleagues) with the House Un-American Activities Committee, is a hero.

Disney being the massive prick that he was has nothing to do with whether or not I can enjoy his studio's films. Hell, my favorite Disney works came out a very long time after the man was already deceased. Am I suppose to denounce and reject the studio's films simply because the founder was a nutcase? I like the damn films, and I'm not ashamed of it. Who cares about Walt Disney? I certainly don't. 
 
When you try to make mockey of an opinion, you should at least quote the whole post:
 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Disney is part of the monopoly of the RIAA, a company that had no troubles suing Sony in the famous Betamax Case, and later joined with Sony to protect their interests in the record industry

Now, I love FANTASIA and consider it a masterpiece as some of his early works, but genius doesn't justify other abuses.

And about the movies, I have no respect for those who distort history and classics.

This are my arguments
 
The Betamax case and most of the distorsion of history and/or authors comes after Walt Disney died, as a fact I'm not the only one who noticed this, in an open letter to the Disney Studios about "Hidalgo", the author quotes Disney's Executive Director of International Publicity, who says:
 
Originally posted by <a href=http://www.thelongridersguild.com/disney.htm target=_blank>http://www.thelongridersguild.com/disney.htm</A>  http://www.thelongridersguild.com/disney.htm  wrote:

]"No one here really cares about the historical aspects.  Once a movie has been shot people move on to the others. ….  If it transpires that the historical aspects are in question, I don't think people would care that much," Heyn told the media.
 
No one here cares about the historical aspects, probably not in Disney studios but many others do:
 
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Dr. Vine Deloria, Jr. is a leading Native American scholar, a retired professor emeritus of history at the University of Colorado and the author of many acclaimed books. 

 

Deloria wrote, “Hopkins’ claims are so outrageously false that one wonders why the Disney people were attracted to this material at all - except of course the constant propensity to make money under any conditions available. One need only peruse the mass of material purporting to deal with the Oglala Sioux and Hopkins' claims regarding them to see that almost anything can be acceptable to the money-mad titans of Hollywood. … Hollywood in all its fictional ventures of the past has never treated history with just such a dismissive attitude. Disney must need the money to take such a bold step.” 

 

Dr. Deloria went on to denounce Hopkins as an Indian imposter, and called him the “World’s Greatest Liar.”  

 
 
In Google the accusations are many and about many movies and stories modified without the authorization of the author or right holders.
 
So please, if you are going to try to contradict me, quote the whole post.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2010 at 19:02
I wasn't contradicting anything else you said. I just didn't care. All I did was focus on one point you made about Disney the man, and addressed it. The rest of your post makes no difference to me. My enjoyment of certain Disney films still stands. 


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