the Disney Sci-Fi movie poll from the 00s
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Topic: the Disney Sci-Fi movie poll from the 00s
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: the Disney Sci-Fi movie poll from the 00s
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 04:47
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I have seen them all and enjoyd them all, I liked the twists and the braveity of Disney studio to make theis movies which are in manny ways untraditional for Disney in humour (in the wein of Emperors New Groove), quicker jokes, deeper plot, darker, not so handsome, wierd lead roles
espessially Milo in Atlantis (voiced by Michael J Fox with exelency), is a nerd, geek, and an expert in gibrish, gets the princess (or godess
 ), whom is 10000 years old  , but looks good, and the other sidekicks are realy funny. and Avatar owe Atlantis for their plotTreasure Island was also a plesant suprise, I was abit sceptical but that movie was quite good I think, but not as good as Atlantis.
and Lilo and Stich is such a great movie with lots of lots of suprisess and turns, heatbraking moments
but Atlantis is my favourite  -------------  
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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 05:36
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I'm also a Disney junkie. The sci-fi films were not exactly my cup of tea, but from the above list I've enjoyed Treasure Planet the most. Oddly enough, now that you mentioned The Emperor's New Groove, that is one of my all time favourites despite the childish and somewhat silly humor.  |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 12:29
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I voted for Atlantis -------------
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 19 2010 at 13:46
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Up!?! Isn't is science fiction to tie a massive amount of balloons to a house and float it so South America only to find strange creatures and dogs fitted with collars that translate their speech into English? |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 21 2010 at 02:29
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I dont beleeve that only three persons have seen this three movies -------------
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 21 2010 at 03:12
| Some of the imagery from Treasure Planet actually inspired the look of one of a world in one of my books. Guess that counts. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 21 2010 at 23:27
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ah cool what do you write sci-fi, fantasy, horror, crime.
what are the titles of your work, is it available to be picked up
and have You seen Atlantis, I am certain the one mr Jim Cameron might have taken some ideas from that film... i just sugest the possibilaty -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:15
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I honestly believe Disney Studios are the worst thing that could happen to movie industry.
For God's sake, they sell dramatic classics with a happy ending (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
If it wasn't enough, they change history (Anastaxcia).
I believe that teaching fake history to kids and distorting the classics is worst than avoiding them. Can't stand Disney movies after Fantasia.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:39
Anastasia was by 20th Century Fox. And no film based on history accurately depicts it. It's fantasy. It's entertainment. Your Notre Dame gripe is especially hilarious, since the 1939 classic everyone loves also featured a butchered, happier ending. To act as if Disney is a special case makes me think you must be intentionally trolling this thread. I mean, the topic isn't even about the studio, it's about three specific films made by the studio. Somehow, when I saw your name in here, before even reading your post, I knew you going to say something outlandish.
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Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 00:41
I'm not a good enough writer to have anything published. I just do it for fun. And I write in any genre I find interesting. And Cameron rips off everybody, so your suspicions are most likely correct. I did see Atlantis a couple of times. Not a bad film.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 07:20
| I always thought Treasure Planet was pretty good but haven't seen any of them since the kids outgrew Disney. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 08:10
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you can never outgrowe a Disney movei (at least not the 90s films, they are so layerd you will be supriced of what are being said or refered to in some scenes like in Aladdin where the sultan blesses Allah atleast 3 times during the movie -------------
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)Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 09:49
Honestly believed Anastasia was Disney movie,but no matter, I have the worst opinion of Disney studios.
And no I'm not trolling a thread, I'm giving an honest opinion ofwhat Disney is, or...Do you only want positive opinions?
When a thread about ELP or Dream Theater and even Yes or Genesis is open, some members say one of this bands is crap, mediocre, or whatever, ando nobody says a word..Because this is a free opinion forum.
If that changes, this will cease to be an opinion forum and turn into a fan club.
Maybe because I always say what I believe without hiding my opinions
People has gioven worst opinions about Disney here, and you said nothing, seems you don't like my posts and honestly I don't give a damn about it, I will always give my honest opinion..
If you want hypocrisy, then don't read my posts.
Iván
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 11:36
I know it's your opinion, but I can't believe someone would say that of the Studios that owns Pixar (a studio that has given as the greatest masterpieces of animation of this era), plus classics like Fantasia, Pinnochio, Beauty and The Beast, etc, etc. By the way, I think all the movies listed above suck. Disney in the 00's (sans Pixar) does kind of suck. ------------- 
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 11:42
I vote Lilo and Stitch. What an original, charming film.
I share your horror at the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but probably just because it's one of my favorite novels. However, Disney has made enough timeless classics (Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Fantasia, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, not to mention all the Pixar stuff) that I am willing to overlook their ocassional missteps. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 15:54
I honestly can't understand people, Christian Vander is accused of having sympathy for Hitler without any evidence, and some say they can't listen him any more, but on the other hand a well known fascist as Walt Disney who had no problems accusing David Hilberman (And I believe 9 more ex colleagues) with the House Un-American Activities Committee, is a hero.
Even when I'm clearly anti-Communist, I can't accept witch hunts and much less respect those who to protect their a$$e$ sell their friends and colleagues. Disney is part of the monopoly of the RIAA, a company that had no troubles suing Sony in the famous Betamax Case, and later joined with Sony to protect their interests in the record industry Now, I love FANTASIA and consider it a masterpiece as some of his early works, but genius doesn't justify other abuses. And about the movies, I have no respect for those who distort history and classics. This are my argumentsIván -------------
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 17:52
Lilo and Stitch. 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 18:00
Disney being the massive prick that he was has nothing to do with whether or not I can enjoy his studio's films. Hell, my favorite Disney works came out a very long time after the man was already deceased. Am I suppose to denounce and reject the studio's films simply because the founder was a nutcase? I like the damn films, and I'm not ashamed of it. Who cares about Walt Disney? I certainly don't.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 18:46
When you try to make mockey of an opinion, you should at least quote the whole post:
The Betamax case and most of the distorsion of history and/or authors comes after Walt Disney died, as a fact I'm not the only one who noticed this, in an open letter to the Disney Studios about "Hidalgo", the author quotes Disney's Executive Director of International Publicity, who says:
No one here cares about the historical aspects, probably not in Disney studios but many others do:
In Google the accusations are many and about many movies and stories modified without the authorization of the author or right holders.
So please, if you are going to try to contradict me, quote the whole post.
Iván
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 19:02
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I wasn't contradicting anything else you said. I just didn't care. All I did was focus on one point you made about Disney the man, and addressed it. The rest of your post makes no difference to me. My enjoyment of certain Disney films still stands. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 19:05
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That's your choice, but let others to express their opinions without being called trolls, specially if we have strong and supported arguments.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 19:08
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I haven't seen these in a while, but I loved Lilo and Stitch. A heartwarming and funny film that still manages to sent a message about humanity as a whole. If Wall-E had been on this list, it would've gotten my vote, though.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 19:12
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I'm going to just put my two cents in about this "argument"... Walt Disney was a creative genius. A crazy genius who was wrong on many things IMO, but a genius nonetheless. I honestly couldn't care less about his political views (which is true in all cases) unless it affects the plot of his writing and film making. I strongly disagree with Walt Disney on many fronts, but it seems a bit absurd for that to affect my enjoyment of his films. -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 22:28
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 22 2010 at 23:53
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let's set things in perspective
Roald Dahl in he's later years was also accused for having racist symphathys, it is said that the origin and backstory of the oompa-loompas In Charlie and the Chocolate-factory were half-racist, and that he had anti-semitic sympatys as well, but that don't stop millions of adults and children to get entranced into he's wonderfull books, whom are all classics, even Tolkien was under the magnifying glass (but he made clare statments both personal and academical answeres to way anti-semiticem and Hitler-germany was nothing he could ever be a follower of) (and both are 1st World War veterans in the air-force)
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 11:01
I know people don't care about Walt Disney, but doesn' statement from the Disney Executive Director of International publicity made a few years ago scares you¡
It really scares me and makes me recommend parents toavopid Disney movies?
I can expect this statement from an ignorant, but not ftrom a high executive of a company that has proclaimed the children are their main interest.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 12:39
Ivan, the thing is, all your arguments are about Disney the person, Disney the company, etc. Yes, bad ideas and things were probably said. But the thread's question was "which of these three do you prefer?". Now I actually don't like any of this, and wouldn't even have participated but your comments needed some reply  If the thread was called "Your opinion on Walt Disney" then maybe none would object to your comments,a t least not regarding people liking or not movies.... It's like you made a Genesis' thread called "Pick one of this three Gabriel-era albums" and someone came and said "But Tony Banks once said that all SouthAmericans have to die!". Does it have anything to do with the poll?  -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 12:46
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I think it's important to point out that people are not all good or all bad. Disney was wrong about a lot, yes, and he surely did some bad things, but he was also a wonderful entertainer, famously kind to children and a truly inspirational artist. I believe his primary motivation for things like Disneyland was to make people happy. Sure, you can say he was only in it for the money, but whether or not that's true, his vision has brought joy to millions. I also enjoy the music of Richard Wagner, even though he was a narcissistic, idea stealing anti-semite. I can separate the art from the artist. -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 12:46
One of the three movies is a distorsion of Robert Louis Stevenson's Classic "Treasure Island", plus, when wioll another Disney thread will be made to guive an opinion?
About Genesis, a lot of threads have started about one, two or three Genesis albums and klots of "I don't care for Gnesis" or "G3enesis is the most overrated" posts have appeared, and nobody says a word.
That's what threads are about.
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: September 29 2010 at 10:56
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Atlantis seemed the most interesting to me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 07:32
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bump
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