Is Prog-Related even still being used?

None of the three could be in Prog-Related, because Prog-Related artists "[a]re widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community". 

Edited by Sean Trane - August 19 2010 at 03:15

Easy Money wrote: We are working on refining the PR definition so that it fits the artists we have there now and leaves the door open for other artists who are more or less part of the prog world (at least at some time) without being total prog artists themselves. Definitions are tough to perfect and then tough to follow to a T, we'll do our best, but I'm sure there will always be some dissatisfaction. P.S. Steely Dan is no longer in xover, they found a much better fit in JR/F.

Easy Money wrote: I'm not a SD fan, but I actually sat down and listened to a bunch of their records, I was surprised, they were a lot more progressive than I would have thought before I listened to the music.

It's not the initial inclusion that is irksome...it is that they have been moved to Fusion.

The harmonic and tonal language of SD is pure jazz. The beats, structure and setting are/were contemporary pop with the occasional excursion into full-blown progressive fusion. That is why they were approved unanimously by Dick Heath, Alucard and myself.
It was also taken into account what a huge influence SD had on fusion, both progressive bands and otherwise. I'm a pro jazz/rock musician and I can tell you SD's influence in the late 70s was probably bigger than most pure fusion bands.

That is all from me guys, ..later.

I hand over the rest of the debate to my good buddy Micky ... now heeeere's Micky!!!   .....      ...um .. or Bob .. whatever.

Edited by Easy Money - August 19 2010 at 11:15

Yeah, some of us, myself included, are big tenters, others are only comfortable with prog being narrowly defined.  And as I have stated before, Prog Related is so narrowly defined now that a lot of the artists already there wouldn't qualify if they weren't already there.  I don't see where you have to be musically influential to prog to be related to prog.  Crossover has taken in some artists that might be a better in other categories, but worthy all the same.

Poor old Micky. Just because he submiited the addition does not negate the fact that it was a Team Decision. Additionally he will be absolutely rolling on the floor laughing at some members continued narrow minded thinking on recent additions. The Jazz Rock/Fusion Team saw fit to have Steely Dan under their banner. This in my opinion was an excellent call and in the interest of PA a sensible one. Teams do not guard their bands as though they were the last scraps on a marooned ship. We are not surrendering our spouses just a band whom we felt fitted another genre better Again emotion based on older bands added, no mention made to the multitude of new artists entered. Clearly these assumptions are based on opinion and emotion. Get over it Looking forward to thebig party at John's apartment ( Hope I'm invited...hahah). Who knows we may even discuss prog.

Sean Trane wrote: Chris S wrote: Poor old Micky. Just because he submiited the addition does not negate the fact that it was a Team Decision. Additionally he will be absolutely rolling on the floor laughing at some members continued narrow minded thinking on recent additions. The Jazz Rock/Fusion Team saw fit to have Steely Dan under their banner. This in my opinion was an excellent call and in the interest of PA a sensible one. Teams do not guard their bands as though they were the last scraps on a marooned ship. We are not surrendering our spouses just a band whom we felt fitted another genre better Again emotion based on older bands added, no mention made to the multitude of new artists entered. Clearly these assumptions are based on opinion and emotion. Get over it Looking forward to thebig party at John's apartment ( Hope I'm invited...hahah). Who knows we may even discuss prog.     Chris,   as far as I read in this thread, nobody even said a bad word about micky's wish to include them in the database.   Actually I don't doubt this.... But it's not a question of narrow-mindedness, but more a question of question of giving the correct info and not misleading prospective progheads.     But let's leave the SD admission alone; this thread was mostly about Tory Amos's placement.... I'm sure that if you ask Tori about her music being progressive rock, she'll laugh in your face. She's a pure singer/songwriter with a Kate Bush obsession....   Don't get me wrong here, I like her stuff and don't mind it in the database and if you use the serch function, you'll see that I even started a thread about her (unless it was in PE).   It's just that including her in crossover is very misleading , especially with Kate Bush sitting in Prog-Related......   AAMOF,  I'd be much more comfortable with things the other way around. I'm sure you can see the rightfulness of this assertion.

Hmmm, there's a certain sense of "if A is here then B must also be here" logic in this discussion. Incidentally a form of reasoning we more or less politely ask new users to refrain from when suggesting new artists ;-)