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    Posted: March 25 2009 at 09:17
My latest reviews concern Prog Metal albums (or related) and I think that the Classic Prog Metal is a genre little understood, though very popular.
 
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Watchtower pwns.
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Michael Romeo, Vitaly kuprij and Mike Portnoy as three of my all time preferred musicians. And they are part of Prog Metal movement!
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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2009 at 14:37
Cynic's Focus is such a legendary album, never gets old. I think that could be called classic prog metal.
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Points: 3073 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2009 at 14:44
I´d say Cynic is more on the extreme side of progressive metal. I´m not sure? but I think Mandrakeroot meant this thread to be for bands like Dream Theater and Fates Warning. The more classic definition of progressive metal.
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^ agreed. I think that both Watchtower and Cynic made classic albums, but I don't think that they could really be called "Classic Prog Metal". For that they were a little too experimental ... and not popular enough. A bit like Gentle Giant and Van der Graaf Generator in the classic prog movement, compared to Yes and Genesis.
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Classic Prog Metal is Mindcrime. There is no other.
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Spinning Fates Warning   - Perfect Symmetry  right now, such a great album I hardly listen to anymore for some reason.

Dream Theater were obviously big fans of it too.

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classic progressive metal = everything made from 88 to 95, which are usually the milestones of the genre

I.E.: Control and Resistance, Nothingface, Mindcrime, Perfect Symmetry, Images and Words, Focus, everything from Atheist, etcetcetc.
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Classic Prog Metal is Mindcrime. There is no other.
 
I second Mindcrime. Such a majestic and powerful album.
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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2009 at 16:32
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ agreed. I think that both Watchtower and Cynic made classic albums, but I don't think that they could really be called "Classic Prog Metal". For that they were a little too experimental ... and not popular enough. A bit like Gentle Giant and Van der Graaf Generator in the classic prog movement, compared to Yes and Genesis.


I dunno, I would still class GG and VDGG as part of the classic prog movement. Just like Fernando Sor was part of the Classical Music movement. I think all the extreme prog metal bands from that kind of era (i.e. Cynic, Death, Atheist, Pestilence) were part of the classic prog metal movement, despite only really having a cult following. But then again it's all up for debate.
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If I enjoy something from Metal, or at least Prog Metal, it should be the Classic Prog Metal, even though I only have 3 DT albums, some Symphony X stuff I heard and Queensryche are a bit to my apeal.
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I love lots of Thrash/Speed metal and NWOBHM stuff. (Adding some links to some Gems)

Virtue - "We Stand To Fight"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ZkOFRdIFI

Witchfinder General - "Burning a Sinner"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jSZEr7EJE

Magnum - "Kingdom of Madness"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5EUe9ChGTY

Praying Mantis - "Children of the Earth"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVxeibTj670

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Cynic = not so amazing. it sounds dated and crappy.
 
Classic metal is kind of tame so its not really my style but Its not bad either. I know a lot of people that think that 70's and 80's metal are the best thing ever but unfortuntaley its not for me.
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Classic metal Prog ... With this definition I would say all that Prog Metal is not Extreme Prog Metal or Post Metal...
 
I believe that in a serious debate also bands such as Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Rush, Rainbow, Cacophony, Malmsteen, Magnum, Asia ('80's production), Warlord, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath... So... All those who have created the foundations of Prog Metal should be included, just for historical completeness.
 
P.s.: I love the Cynic... Great band... But they are Extreme Prog Metal (Death Jazz Metal... A definition that I love, referring to their music).


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Originally posted by Anirml Anirml wrote:

I love lots of Thrash/Speed metal and NWOBHM stuff. (Adding some links to some Gems)

Virtue - "We Stand To Fight"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ZkOFRdIFI

Witchfinder General - "Burning a Sinner"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jSZEr7EJE

Magnum - "Kingdom of Madness"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5EUe9ChGTY

Praying Mantis - "Children of the Earth"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVxeibTj670

Don't you like these?
 
Magnum? 'Kingdom Of madness'? Well ... I think that this song is one of the songs that have helped to codify the Prog Metal!
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2009 at 05:33
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To me classic Prog Metal is Iron Maiden.Big smile


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