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    Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:10

In 1967 Pink Floyd recorded "Interstellar Overdrive" (16:46) and "Nick's Boogie" (11:50) for Peter Whitehead's documentary on swingning London, "Tonight lets make love in London". The recordings were released the same year.

Which other rock or pop songs from '67 or earlier were in excess of 10 minutes?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:23

I don't really consider those songs to be fully fledged epics; they are just jams, and not very interesting ones at that...

The one I can think of is 'The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet' by Zappa which was about a side in length in 1966, but is every inch a filler track. It lets down the otherwise excellent 'Freak Out' for me. Thankfully, no other Mothers album had an excess anywhere near as excruciating as that one...

Love's 'Revelation' from their 'Da Capo' album in 1967 was a side long song too. However, 'Da Capo' is regarded as a one-side album, and it isn't the side with that on...It's a truly turgid blues jam that never lives up to the promise of the majestic harpsichord intro, again letting down a truly wonderful album.

The Rolling Stones' 'Going Home' was only just under 10 minutes, and was from 'Aftermath'. Again though, it's more of a jam but is more listenable than you'd suspect...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:59

A Quick One While He's Away (The Who) allmost did it in 1966. (9 minutes and 11 seconds).

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:16
'Desolation Row' by Dylan is over 11 minutes, And I think it came out in 65.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:24
Possibly (not sure on the date here): The Jimi Hendrix Experience - 1983... A Merman I Shall Turn To Be

And I think some Fleetwood Mac stuff was over 10 minutes (Sandy Mary from the BBC Sessions for instance).

Grateful Dead - Dark Star (again, this may have been post '69).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:41
East-West by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, 1966, 13:18.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:44
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

'Desolation Row' by Dylan is over 11 minutes, And I think it came out in 65.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:51
Alan Watts (Proto-Proto-Psychedelic)  Metamatic Ritual, (13:56) 1962.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 06:07

I wonder if any of the longer pieces you mention, in terms of length, inspired proto-prog bands to write epics like the 17 minutes long "In Held Twas In I" by Procol Harum. What do you think?

Did Pink Floyd find inspiration in any of these bands to stretch out their songs? Was it the norm at the time ('66-'67) in the UFO Club to play long pieces?

BTW, I have made a small investigation (see other thread on "P Floyd & Tonight lets all make love...") and found that Pink Floyd's "Nick's Boogie" probably was lost in the vaults until the 90's and and not released on the 1967 or 1968 (?) soundtrack to "Tonite let's all make love in London". Also, there might have been two soundtracks, one with an excerpt of "Interstellar Overdrive", another with a full length version. The latter soundtrack seems to be "Tonite let's all make love in London...Plus".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 07:58
The Doors - The End
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:29

"Goin' Home" by the Stones was a very structured song for the first 4 minutes or so, (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse) followed by a blues jam complete with Mick trying his best at improvised singing.  Not a "loud" song at all, it was actually very good and clocked in at 11:35.  Pity that the band never tried to do anything like it again, it was one of the many high points on their Aftermath album.

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:37

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

The Doors - The End

Was 1971.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:01
Originally posted by CandyAppleRed CandyAppleRed wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

The Doors - The End

Was 1971.

Ha, ha

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:02

Speaking of The Doors:

When The Music's Over (11:00) 1967.

(Was over for the band in 1971)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:14
I believe Dylan's "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" rambled on for over 10 minutes. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:28
do not forget about Arlo Guthrie and Alices Restaraunt, 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:50
Seventh Sons - Raga (30:50) 1964

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:17
Group 1850: I put my hands on your shoulder (13:36). It is a track of the excellent psychedlic album "Agemo's trip to mother earth" (1968).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:34
Originally posted by CandyAppleRed CandyAppleRed wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

The Doors - The End

Was 1971.

No man...it was January 1967! The first albun relased by doors  ...but the song was written in 1966!

Anyway there is also "Revelation" by Love 1967 even if not exactly prog!



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