Pre-’68 rock/pop songs over 10 minutes
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Topic: Pre-’68 rock/pop songs over 10 minutes
Posted By: earlyprog
Subject: Pre-’68 rock/pop songs over 10 minutes
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:10
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In 1967 Pink Floyd recorded "Interstellar Overdrive" (16:46) and "Nick's Boogie" (11:50) for Peter Whitehead's documentary on swingning London, "Tonight lets make love in London". The recordings were released the same year. Which other rock or pop songs from '67 or earlier were in excess of 10 minutes? |
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:23
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I don't really consider those songs to be fully fledged epics; they are just jams, and not very interesting ones at that... The one I can think of is 'The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet' by Zappa which was about a side in length in 1966, but is every inch a filler track. It lets down the otherwise excellent 'Freak Out' for me. Thankfully, no other Mothers album had an excess anywhere near as excruciating as that one... Love's 'Revelation' from their 'Da Capo' album in 1967 was a side long song too. However, 'Da Capo' is regarded as a one-side album, and it isn't the side with that on...It's a truly turgid blues jam that never lives up to the promise of the majestic harpsichord intro, again letting down a truly wonderful album. The Rolling Stones' 'Going Home' was only just under 10 minutes, and was from 'Aftermath'. Again though, it's more of a jam but is more listenable than you'd suspect... |
Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 15:59
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A Quick One While He's Away (The Who) allmost did it in 1966. (9 minutes and 11 seconds).
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:16
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'Desolation Row' by Dylan is over 11 minutes, And I think it came out in 65. ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:24
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Possibly (not sure on the date here): The Jimi Hendrix Experience - 1983... A Merman I Shall Turn To Be And I think some Fleetwood Mac stuff was over 10 minutes (Sandy Mary from the BBC Sessions for instance). Grateful Dead - Dark Star (again, this may have been post '69). -------------   
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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:41
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East-West by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, 1966, 13:18. ------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:44
August 30, 1965 ------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Winter Wine wrote:Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 16:51
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Alan Watts (Proto-Proto-Psychedelic)
Metamatic Ritual, (13:56) 1962.
------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 06:07
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I wonder if any of the longer pieces you mention, in terms of length, inspired proto-prog bands to write epics like the 17 minutes long "In Held Twas In I" by Procol Harum. What do you think? Did Pink Floyd find inspiration in any of these bands to stretch out their songs? Was it the norm at the time ('66-'67) in the UFO Club to play long pieces? BTW, I have made a small investigation (see other thread on "P Floyd & Tonight lets all make love...") and found that Pink Floyd's "Nick's Boogie" probably was lost in the vaults until the 90's and and not released on the 1967 or 1968 (?) soundtrack to "Tonite let's all make love in London". Also, there might have been two soundtracks, one with an excerpt of "Interstellar Overdrive", another with a full length version. The latter soundtrack seems to be "Tonite let's all make love in London...Plus". |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 07:58
| The Doors - The End |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 08:21
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Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:29
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"Goin' Home" by the Stones was a very structured song for the first 4 minutes or so, (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse) followed by a blues jam complete with Mick trying his best at improvised singing. Not a "loud" song at all, it was actually very good and clocked in at 11:35. Pity that the band never tried to do anything like it again, it was one of the many high points on their Aftermath album.
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Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:37
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Was 1971. |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:01
Ha, ha
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:02
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Speaking of The Doors: When The Music's Over (11:00) 1967. (Was over for the band in 1971) |
Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:14
| I believe Dylan's "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" rambled on for over 10 minutes. |
Posted By: goochnhell
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:28
| do not forget about Arlo Guthrie and Alices Restaraunt, |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:50
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Seventh Sons - Raga (30:50) 1964 |
Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:17
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Group 1850: I put my hands on your shoulder (13:36). It is a track of the excellent psychedlic album "Agemo's trip to mother earth" (1968). ------------- Dona Nobis Pacem |
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:34
No man...it was January 1967! The first albun relased by doors ...but the song was written in 1966! Anyway there is also "Revelation" by Love 1967 even if not exactly prog! ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:48
Yes, it was 1967. |
Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 15:06
| "Sister Ray" by the Velvet Underground is another one. |
Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 19:50
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if jams count, the quicksilver messenger service has a 20 something minute version of 'who do you love'
an awesome song from one of the best albums ever |
Posted By: skyhawk
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 20:14
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In held Twas I (Over 17 minutes) Procol Harum in 1967 ------------- 
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 04:25
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Nice try. That was 1968 |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:50
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To recap: Metamatic Ritual (13:56) 1962 Alan Raga (32:09) recorded 1964 / released 1968 Seventh Sons “Raga (4 AM at Frank’s)” Desolation Row (11:24) 1965 Bob Dylan “Highway 61 Revisited” Sad Eyed Lady of the East-West (13:18) 1966 The Paul Butterfield Blues Band “East-West” The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet (12:17) 1966 Frank Zappa The End (11:35) 1967 The Doors “The Doors” Interstellar Overdrive (16:46) 1967? Pink Floyd “Tonite let’s all make love in Nick's Boogie (11:50) recorded 1967 / released 1999 Pink Floyd “Pink Floyd London 1966-1967” Revelation (18:56) 1967 Love “Da Capo” When The Music's Over (11:00) 1967 The Doors “Strange Days” Grateful Dead - Dark Star (again, this may have been post '69). Didn’t qualify Going Home (9:??) 1966 The Rolling Stones “Aftermath” A Quick One While He's Away (9:11) 1966 The Who “Quick One” In held Twas I (17:31) 1968 Procol Harum “Shine on Brightly” The Fool (12:07) 1968 Quicksilver Messenger Service “Quicksilver Messenger Service” I put my hands on your shoulder (13:36) 1968 Groep 1850 "Agemo's trip to mother earth" 1983... A Merman I Should Turn To Be (13:46) 1968 The Jimi Hendrix Experience “Electric Ladyland” Voodoo Child (15:05) 1968 The Jimi Hendrix Experience “Electric Ladyland” Sister Ray (17:00) 1968 The Velvet Underground “White Light / white Heat” Who do you love (25:00) 1969 Quicksilver Messenger Service “Happy Trails” Sandy Mary (?:?) 1970? Fleetwood Mac “ BBC Sessions”?
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 04:28
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Viola Lee Blues (10:01) 1967 The Grateful Dead “The Grateful Dead” |
Posted By: lordoflight
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 05:49
| Santana live at Woodstock - Soul Sacrifice |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 07:19
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Which was recorded 1969 (and released 1970?). Speaking of Santana: Fried Neckbones (10:10) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968” Soul Sacrifice (14:30) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968” Freeway (30:15) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968”
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Posted By: lordoflight
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 08:27
| woodstock was at 67 or 69? i forgot lol |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 08:38
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August 15-17, 1969 |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 00:40
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Maybe it doesn't count but Turn on Your Love Light by Grateful Dead in Woodstock '69, almost 40 minutes. ------------- 
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 18:59
| In the Aftermath record, Goin´Home time is 11:35. Where is the source of the 9:?? ? |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 04:00
You're actually right. It's 11:14 on my CD version.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 05:20
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I continue to find 10+ minutes pre-68 songs. So here's a re-recap (see above): Going Home (11:14) 1966 The Rolling Stones “Aftermath” Viola Lee Blues (10:01) 1967 The Grateful Dead “The Grateful Dead” Nearly qualified Ars Longa Vita Brevis suite (19.26) November 1968 The Nice “Ars Longa Vita Brevis” River deep, Mountain high (10:12) 1968 Deep Purple “Book of Taliesyn” Dark Star (?:?) 1968 Grateful Dead “Two from the Vault” Turn on Your Love Light (40+) Five Bridges Suite (18:09) recorded October 1969 / released 1970 The Nice “Five Bridges” In the Stable of the Sphinx (11:10) recorded 1968 / released 2004 East Of Eden ”Mercator Projected” Fried Neckbones (10:10) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968” Soul Sacrifice (14:30) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968” Freeway (30:15) recorded 1968/ released 1997 Santana “Live at the Fillmore 1968” Who do you love (25:00) 1969 Quicksilver Messenger Service “Happy Trails” Soul sacrifice (?:?) recorded 1969 / released 1970? Santana “ |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 10:18
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Not sure of the year or the exact title of the song but there was a side-long rambling story with music on "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake" by the Small Faces (pre Rod Stewart). Any help? ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:42
| There´s another possibility Grateful Dead´s second album, because studio parts were recorded in 67 and live parts between 67 and 68. Alligator has 11 minutes, but I don´t know if it is from 67 or 68. |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 16:19
| Chad Stuart and Jeremy Clyde - The Progress Suite (From Of Cabbages and Kings - 1967) Approx: 25 minutes. |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 17:18
What style of music is that?! Where can I find more info on this suite?
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 14:59
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Chad Stuart and Jeremy Clyde are folk which turned to be psychedelic at that time(lots of sitar, etc.) Their official(?) site http://www.chadandjeremy.net/cj/lp6.htm Not much info of the suite, just the album. The song is divided in tracks, but they are parts of the song (prologue, epilogue, etc...) If you want to listen the song, PM me. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:18
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Chad and Jeremy were a UK duo that were far more popular in America than they were in Britain. I think they appeared post The Beatles/British Invasion. Their biggest hit was 'Yesterday's Gone' and I can't say I've ever heard any of their other work.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:39
| Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Heard It Through The Grapewine - 1967 (over 11 min.)? |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 10:11
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I Heard It Through The Grapevine is from Creedence Clearwater Revival's album Cosmo's Factory, which is from 1970. I don't think there is an early version pré-1968 |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 13:29
| My fault |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 17:39
| Another song - The Chamber Brothers - Time has come today (1967) (psychedelic rock/soul) 11 minutes and some seconds. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 20 2006 at 09:24
June 1968 - and it was a collection of related songs joined together with odd folky music and the story of Happiness Stan and Mad John, narrated by Stanley Unwin. A side-long concept, no less. To add to the list: Fifty Foot Hose: "Fantasy" ("Cauldron") - 1967 (10:13). Also under consideration: Nirvana: The Story of Simon Simopath (1967) - a concept album that predates "SF Sorrow". ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: July 20 2006 at 09:36
When talking about concept albuns it is sometimes difficult to distinguish suites from separated songs liked by a concept. To make the things more clear, let's state a thing: a group of songs cannot be considered a suite unless it is explicitly written in the original album. For example: Days of Future Passed cannot be considered a single song, although it is a concept album, since there is no indication that the songs were made as a suite. Karn Evil 9 can be considered a suite although in the record, the length of the parts is separated, since the songs are named Karn Evil 9 - part 1, part 2, so they are part of one song. Ballet for a Girl in Buchannon can be considered a suite although the parts have all different names, because you can get this info in the album. Do you agree? |
Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 00:07
| 'quick one while hes away 'by the who |