Quebec's Prog: The Best Prog in North America? |
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Hrychu
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Posted: December 17 2024 at 04:23 |
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It's a very peculiar case, because everything the French-Quebecois do is somehow inferior to the same thing done by the French people from France (animation, comedy, TV shows, you name it).... except for progressive rock.
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Sean Trane
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Hey Svettie, I
think you over-estimate La Belle province's prog band's influenceness
even inside the rest of canada, let alone the North Am continent or even
French-speaking Europe. Few of those bands ventured out west, and when
one if them reached Toronto, it was almost an exploit or lifetime
achievement. The 70's were difficult time
for Canada & Quebec with the sovereignty crisis looming over the
second biggest land. There was much resentment over Quebec's will to
separate, because it threatened the country's land continuity and losing
the Maritimes Provinces (out east) to the US was a possibility many
Ontarians dreaded. Furthermore, at the height of the crisis (75/77) in
the middle of the cold war, the US amassed troops along the Quebec
border in the possibilty of interference from Cuba and the Soviets. Soooo,
there was resentment towards anything french/Quebec, not just in
Toronto, but out west (Alberta mainly). Whatever French-speakers
outside Quebec were in small cities or villages or countryside of New Brunswick (45% of the population) and Northern Ontario (40%),
but elsewhere it was rarely over 5%. Sure, at the height of the crisis
(75-77), the 400K Montrealers that oved towards Southern Ontario made
Totonto's economic power ever since (Montreal had been #1 until then),
but it didn't make it a bilingual city (despite the province being
officialy so). I had many buddies and
non-buddies that resorted to the "they lost the late XVIIIth C and early
XIXth C wars, so f**k them froggies" type of argument. You can easily
imagine that's +/- less what happened between Belgrade and the rest of
the Yugo republcs in the early 90's, but thankfully, the Independance
referendum was delayed until things had cooled down - and the unofficial economic
embargo weakened wills. What I'm trying to say
past this political context is that there was little any interest for
anything Frencho-Quebec in terms of cultural matters; especially that if
Montreal looked a lot at Paris (despite denying it), Toronto was
getting the flu when London was sneezing. Worlds apart really, despite
thousands of young Totontonites moving out to Montreal to party every
week-ends (looser alcohol laws and promiscuous women). Of
course in artistic circles, this was much less a problem, but I can't
say that I saw many of those Québécois bands in Toronto during the 70's,
and once I was mobile in the early 80's, most of the Quebec prog scene
had vanished into oblivion, as the disco tsunami killed everything
over-there. ============ Now sure, we can discuss about those band's influences nationally or worldwide, but none were Genesis, Crimson or Yes or Kansas. Sooo, yes, Quebec was the main point of entry for bands like VdGG and GG, but also Supertramp and Genesis. Outside
The Prog-Quebec team (two anglophones from Montreal), there is little
interest in reviving that era's music, because it brings out a sense of
defeat (or so methinks) to the population. Sure Harmonium's Fiori is a
living God on TV nowadays, but most of the crowd still think of the
hippie attitude as negative. =========== Personally
while I'm responsible of lobbying PA's quebecois owners of this site to
include most of the Quebec bands here, few were really groundbreaking. FTM,
I'd even tend to think that the most inventive aspects of the "scene"
was into "electronic prog" with Michel Madore (the Komuso),
Dionne-Brégent and Pascal Languirand (though he was often in Paris),
rather than the symphonic, folkish or JR/F aspects. Sadly, only D-B has
been reissued on CD, which gives you an idea about the "influence" the
whole scene might've had. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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The sad thing is that it was Svetty in those contexts. (I think it's a Svetty clone now as well)
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Sean Trane
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full album for Minos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6RiHvTX_Vk&list=OLAK5uy_nvh-Voy-eCpbUw60voPmL8oK93WI2wJBc
Edited by Sean Trane - December 18 2024 at 04:23 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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