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Logan
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How clumsy, I just prepared a poll, wrote a very long opening post, and accidentally closed it just as I was getting read to post it. Ah well, here I try again -- may be mistakes as I hurriedly prepare this one.
In the last option, vote for any or all of those. There's some interesting contrast there with Blue is the Warmest Colour, a bold and artsy tale of Sapphic love (I don't enjoy The Mask myself, and I didn't like The Crow, but I know they get some love in the forum). This was inspired by Batman talk, by the way, and I did similar poll once before but with less options. There are some others that I might have included, but I think of them as from comic books (periodicals) rather than graphic novels (which are read much like a normal novel -- I tend to read normal novels but we do have some Gaiman and Death Note ones in the house). Maybe some of these do not belong. Vote for as many as you like and mention any others (it's not a contest and the poll choices are merely intended as an accessory to discussion, and digressions are appreciated). |
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Definitely V for Vendetta.
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V for Vendetta is great, but I also think that Oldboy (the Korean version) is a terrific revenge drama (and if I were to choose just one, then I think Oldboy would get my vote). I could happily vote for all of the first 11 films plus Ghost in the Shell (not the recent film). Some others I have yet to see, but are highly regarded.
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First vote for A History Of Violence. I admire Viggo for going in the exact opposite direction acting wise to rid himself of the heroic horse riding king from Tolkien's imagination. Nahh how about a psycho russian mobster and here in a similar violent role. Frodo..err sorry Elijah Sood did something similar and did a crazy psychokiller with a taste for human flesh as well as a guy that quickly becomes enamoured with football hooliganism and generally just feeling good about giving certain folks a good stomp in their tummies. It didn't really work though. I still think pwople see Elijah and want to call him Frodo. It's inevitable. Sadly.
Ed Harris is wonderful as a baddie in the flick. Those crewcut guys who've been casted accordingly for years and years make for the finest of villains shen they finally get the gig...but maybe that is entirely the point? I doubt it. Producers and casters aren't exactly fortune tellers. Hhmmm The Watchmen... now while I do like it and probably like it a lot, I am still slightly letdown by it. In its open attempt to make superheroes and the whole universe surrounding them more realistic and human, it sadly misses the opportunity to 'really stick it to the man' and make a film that fully crosses that line in order to underline what I personally believe is at its very core: the ultimate dilemma. In short: why not have full-frontal-nudity-blue-man-group-of-one succeed? The bomb goes off, we reset the clocks and let mother nature go back to work. It would have been such a beautiful feck-you to the whole industry...but then again I don't suppose the graphic novel ends like that either? I'm asking because I don't know. |
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V for Vendetta, Watchmen, Sin City, I think all 3 capture the comic art and darkness beautifully
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The changed the end of the Watchmen as the novel is even darker but both versions work well for me.
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Logan
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A very good post, and one that gives me plenty of food for thought. Thanks, David. A History of Violence is definitely one of my very top favoured films here. As for the Watchmen, it is a flawed film, lacking some substance/ social commentary and it could have ended better (I hadn't "read' the graphic novel except in part so I can't compare). I still love the look and general feel of it (beautiful film in its way), but it could have been more subversive. Edited by Logan - July 29 2018 at 13:07 |
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I don't normally vote in my own polls, but this time I did give a vote to Oldboy (aka Oldeuboi) as I think it deserves some recognition (there was a US remake, directed by Spike Lee, that is not supposed to be nearly as good -- they rarely are). It won the Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and Quentin Tarantino, who was President of the Jury that year, was very praising of it. Normally I'm not that big on "action" films (plenty I do like, mind you), but this neo-noir revenge action film really worked for me.
Oldboy is the second part of what is known as The Vengeance Trilogy by Park Chan-wook (screenwriter and director). It consists of Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002), Oldboy (2003) and Lady Vengeance (2005) and is best seen as a trilogy. A big part of what i like about these films is his composition, but also because they highlight some rather interesting ethical issues (I think the second and third are my favourites). I loved his I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK (Saibogujiman kwenchana) film. Not a great title, maybe, but it's a witty and poignant film. Park Chan-wook produced Snowpiercer (directed and co-written by Bong Joon Ho), which is on my list. This is another of my particular favourites. I am a big fan of Bong Joon Ho's The Host, which is a playful, sometimes delightful, and ultimately very poignant monster movie (it works as part homage to classic monster B movies). I know The Host isn't even on this list, but here's a review of it which utterly fails to resonate with me. "Maybe this [The Host] is actually a treatise on the dissonance between East and West, science and nature, promise and tragedy. Nah. It's just a dumb, crappy horror movie that wants to be celebrated as such." Maybe you're just a dumb, crappy writer that wants to be celebrated as such. Bong Joon Ho also directed the, I think excellent, Memories of Murder. More recently, Bong Joon Ho directed Okja, which I liked even through I felt some of the comedy didn't work that well. |
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Sin City rebooted the film carear of Mickey Rourke hes portraiil of Marv was menecing and cool which is proof of good acting chops. And Bruce Willis steals the show hes so HARDigan. RiP Michael Clark Duncan and a nice cameo of Routger Heuer. The entire casting is soo a-class and works like a clock.
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'Hellboy...Red...Watchmen...Edge of Tomorow....quite a few up there I liked.
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Blue is a warm colour edges Persepolis (that an anime, which is IMHO not a movie proper)
but there are dozens missing from this list Le Combat Ordinaire is my fave
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Haven't seen all of these, but I absolutely adore the futuristic Akira, so that was my first vote. Also voted for Scott Pilgrim, such a fun movie!
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I've seen a few of these and Watchmen is the best I've seen (It's not "The" Watchmen btw).
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I was going to vote for V For Vendetta but decided to throw some love to American Splendor.
A low key, quirky little film that I really liked.
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I am actually not really interested to see a movie based on a graphic novel. the result will in my opinion very rarely turn out to be satisfying. there is one graphic novel series that I might be interested in to watch, but it would have to be a movie or movies with a lot of CGI. and that's the "Canardo" series by SOKAL
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Can't believe someone voted for A League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that movies was a steaming pile.
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Rarely should be the operative word. I'm generally not really interested to see a film because it is based on a graphic novel, but that doesn't mean that I won't be really interested in seeing films that happen to be based on graphic novels. Tale some time to explore these titles, and I do think you'd find something that might interest you or you would enjoy. I will talk about it more later, but Blue is the Warmest Colour is one that you might find some appreciation for. There's actually considerable variety in the list, and there is another that I forgot to include when I lost the original which is a traditionally shot, low budget live action film which does not rely on special effects. Some are big budget action films with CGI, some use traditional cell animation, some are more art house films, some are superpower-type films etc. The variety of storytelling and styles in these types of films can be as endless as other films. I'm not much of a reader of graphic novels, preferring traditional novels, but I do believe that they can inspire great films. I don't discriminate. Take Blue is the Warmest Colour, which is a French bold and beautiful film of Sapphic Love (erotic and not one, by my standards, for kids) which, surprisingly to me, won the Palme d'Or at Cannes when Steven Spielberg was head of the jury. It's win did surprise me because I think it is, in part, softcore porn. I mean, many great artistic French films often are -- my wife and I loved Betty Blue for instance, and another blue in more ways than one film. Now I want to redundantly talk about Kieslowski's Blue. A film like American Splendor is different from, say, Watchmen (there I remembered to omit the "The"). Akira is different from V for Vendetta in execution. Persepolis is a beautiful film and faithful, and is very different from Sin City. A History of Violence is very different from Ghost in the Shell. One I missed in this hastily redone list after I lost my first (which took a long time to prepare as I was writing something about each of these films) is The Diary of a Teenage Girl, which again is so different from, say, Snowpiercer. Oldboy is very different to Edge of Tomorrow etc. 20th Century Boys is very different to Wanted. The Mask (one I'm not keen on, though I love some later Carrey films such as Eternal Sunshine..., Truman Show, Man in the Moon...), is very different Road to Perdition etc. Again, I'm relatively confident that it you were to explore these films in the list, you would find something to like and, perhaps, would then find that you might be interested in seeing other films based on graphic novels in the future (oftentimes one wouldn't guess that they were, or might be, based on graphic novels any more than one might guess that a film was based on a novel that one wasn't aware of). Me, I tend not to discriminate based on the source medium. One can make enjoyable films based on great literature, Graphic Novels, radio plays, news stories and so on. Inspiration comes from many sources. |
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Some of these are not strictly graphic novels. They began as individual comic book series that were later collected into trade paperback volumes but I suppose that's nitpicking. Regardless, I voted for Road To Perdition.
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It's no "The League of Gentlemen" -- available on BritBox for those that have the service https://www.britbox.com/ca/season/The_League_of_Gentlemen_S1_8466 |
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Now that is a fantastic show!
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