Films based on Graphic Novels
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Topic: Films based on Graphic Novels
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Films based on Graphic Novels
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 11:36
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How clumsy, I just prepared a poll, wrote a very long opening post, and accidentally closed it just as I was getting read to post it. Ah well, here I try again -- may be mistakes as I hurriedly prepare this one. In the last option, vote for any or all of those. There's some interesting contrast there with Blue is the Warmest Colour, a bold and artsy tale of Sapphic love (I don't enjoy The Mask myself, and I didn't like The Crow, but I know they get some love in the forum). This was inspired by Batman talk, by the way, and I did similar poll once before but with less options. There are some others that I might have included, but I think of them as from comic books (periodicals) rather than graphic novels (which are read much like a normal novel -- I tend to read normal novels but we do have some Gaiman and Death Note ones in the house). Maybe some of these do not belong. Vote for as many as you like and mention any others (it's not a contest and the poll choices are merely intended as an accessory to discussion, and digressions are appreciated). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 12:15
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Definitely V for Vendetta. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 12:20
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V for Vendetta is great, but I also think that Oldboy (the Korean version) is a terrific revenge drama (and if I were to choose just one, then I think Oldboy would get my vote). I could happily vote for all of the first 11 films plus Ghost in the Shell (not the recent film). Some others I have yet to see, but are highly regarded. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 12:42
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First vote for A History Of Violence. I admire Viggo for going in the exact opposite direction acting wise to rid himself of the heroic horse riding king from Tolkien's imagination. Nahh how about a psycho russian mobster and here in a similar violent role. Frodo..err sorry Elijah Sood did something similar and did a crazy psychokiller with a taste for human flesh as well as a guy that quickly becomes enamoured with football hooliganism and generally just feeling good about giving certain folks a good stomp in their tummies. It didn't really work though. I still think pwople see Elijah and want to call him Frodo. It's inevitable. Sadly. Ed Harris is wonderful as a baddie in the flick. Those crewcut guys who've been casted accordingly for years and years make for the finest of villains shen they finally get the gig...but maybe that is entirely the point? I doubt it. Producers and casters aren't exactly fortune tellers. Hhmmm The Watchmen... now while I do like it and probably like it a lot, I am still slightly letdown by it. In its open attempt to make superheroes and the whole universe surrounding them more realistic and human, it sadly misses the opportunity to 'really stick it to the man' and make a film that fully crosses that line in order to underline what I personally believe is at its very core: the ultimate dilemma. In short: why not have full-frontal-nudity-blue-man-group-of-one succeed? The bomb goes off, we reset the clocks and let mother nature go back to work. It would have been such a beautiful feck-you to the whole industry...but then again I don't suppose the graphic novel ends like that either? I'm asking because I don't know. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 13:01
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V for Vendetta, Watchmen, Sin City, I think all 3 capture the comic art and darkness beautifully ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 13:03
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The changed the end of the Watchmen as the novel is even darker but both versions work well for me. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 13:04
A very good post, and one that gives me plenty of food for thought. Thanks, David. A History of Violence is definitely one of my very top favoured films here. As for the Watchmen, it is a flawed film, lacking some substance/ social commentary and it could have ended better (I hadn't "read' the graphic novel except in part so I can't compare). I still love the look and general feel of it (beautiful film in its way), but it could have been more subversive. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 14:07
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I don't normally vote in my own polls, but this time I did give a vote to Oldboy (aka Oldeuboi) as I think it deserves some recognition (there was a US remake, directed by Spike Lee, that is not supposed to be nearly as good -- they rarely are). It won the Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and Quentin Tarantino, who was President of the Jury that year, was very praising of it. Normally I'm not that big on "action" films (plenty I do like, mind you), but this neo-noir revenge action film really worked for me. Oldboy is the second part of what is known as The Vengeance Trilogy by Park Chan-wook (screenwriter and director). It consists of Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002), Oldboy (2003) and Lady Vengeance (2005) and is best seen as a trilogy. A big part of what i like about these films is his composition, but also because they highlight some rather interesting ethical issues (I think the second and third are my favourites). I loved his I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK (Saibogujiman kwenchana) film. Not a great title, maybe, but it's a witty and poignant film. Park Chan-wook produced Snowpiercer (directed and co-written by Bong Joon Ho), which is on my list. This is another of my particular favourites. I am a big fan of Bong Joon Ho's The Host, which is a playful, sometimes delightful, and ultimately very poignant monster movie (it works as part homage to classic monster B movies). I know The Host isn't even on this list, but here's a review of it which utterly fails to resonate with me. "Maybe this [The Host] is actually a treatise on the dissonance between East and West, science and nature, promise and tragedy. Nah. It's just a dumb, crappy horror movie that wants to be celebrated as such." Maybe you're just a dumb, crappy writer that wants to be celebrated as such. Bong Joon Ho also directed the, I think excellent, Memories of Murder. More recently, Bong Joon Ho directed Okja, which I liked even through I felt some of the comedy didn't work that well. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 15:26
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Sin City rebooted the film carear of Mickey Rourke hes portraiil of Marv was menecing and cool which is proof of good acting chops. And Bruce Willis steals the show hes so HARDigan. RiP Michael Clark Duncan and a nice cameo of Routger Heuer. The entire casting is soo a-class and works like a clock. -------------  
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 15:44
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'Hellboy...Red...Watchmen...Edge of Tomorow....quite a few up there I liked. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 02:58
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Blue is a warm colour edges Persepolis (that an anime, which is IMHO not a movie proper) but there are dozens missing from this list Le Combat Ordinaire is my fave
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Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 05:48
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Haven't seen all of these, but I absolutely adore the futuristic Akira, so that was my first vote. Also voted for Scott Pilgrim, such a fun movie! ------------- Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 07:11
| I've seen a few of these and Watchmen is the best I've seen (It's not "The" Watchmen btw). |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 08:12
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I was going to vote for V For Vendetta but decided to throw some love to American Splendor. A low key, quirky little film that I really liked.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 08:54
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I am actually not really interested to see a movie based on a graphic novel. the result will in my opinion very rarely turn out to be satisfying. there is one graphic novel series that I might be interested in to watch, but it would have to be a movie or movies with a lot of CGI. and that's the "Canardo" series by SOKAL
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 10:44
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Can't believe someone voted for A League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that movies was a steaming pile. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 10:56
Rarely should be the operative word. I'm generally not really interested to see a film because it is based on a graphic novel, but that doesn't mean that I won't be really interested in seeing films that happen to be based on graphic novels. Tale some time to explore these titles, and I do think you'd find something that might interest you or you would enjoy. I will talk about it more later, but Blue is the Warmest Colour is one that you might find some appreciation for. There's actually considerable variety in the list, and there is another that I forgot to include when I lost the original which is a traditionally shot, low budget live action film which does not rely on special effects. Some are big budget action films with CGI, some use traditional cell animation, some are more art house films, some are superpower-type films etc. The variety of storytelling and styles in these types of films can be as endless as other films. I'm not much of a reader of graphic novels, preferring traditional novels, but I do believe that they can inspire great films. I don't discriminate. Take Blue is the Warmest Colour, which is a French bold and beautiful film of Sapphic Love (erotic and not one, by my standards, for kids) which, surprisingly to me, won the Palme d'Or at Cannes when Steven Spielberg was head of the jury. It's win did surprise me because I think it is, in part, softcore porn. I mean, many great artistic French films often are -- my wife and I loved Betty Blue for instance, and another blue in more ways than one film. Now I want to redundantly talk about Kieslowski's Blue. A film like American Splendor is different from, say, Watchmen (there I remembered to omit the "The"). Akira is different from V for Vendetta in execution. Persepolis is a beautiful film and faithful, and is very different from Sin City. A History of Violence is very different from Ghost in the Shell. One I missed in this hastily redone list after I lost my first (which took a long time to prepare as I was writing something about each of these films) is The Diary of a Teenage Girl, which again is so different from, say, Snowpiercer. Oldboy is very different to Edge of Tomorrow etc. 20th Century Boys is very different to Wanted. The Mask (one I'm not keen on, though I love some later Carrey films such as Eternal Sunshine..., Truman Show, Man in the Moon...), is very different Road to Perdition etc. Again, I'm relatively confident that it you were to explore these films in the list, you would find something to like and, perhaps, would then find that you might be interested in seeing other films based on graphic novels in the future (oftentimes one wouldn't guess that they were, or might be, based on graphic novels any more than one might guess that a film was based on a novel that one wasn't aware of). Me, I tend not to discriminate based on the source medium. One can make enjoyable films based on great literature, Graphic Novels, radio plays, news stories and so on. Inspiration comes from many sources. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 10:57
| Some of these are not strictly graphic novels. They began as individual comic book series that were later collected into trade paperback volumes but I suppose that's nitpicking. Regardless, I voted for Road To Perdition. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:04
It's no "The League of Gentlemen" -- available on BritBox for those that have the service https://www.britbox.com/ca/season/The_League_of_Gentlemen_S1_8466" rel="nofollow - https://www.britbox.com/ca/season/The_League_of_Gentlemen_S1_8466 ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:13
Now that is a fantastic show! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:32
It's one of my favourites. I was so happy to see the the three part special in December of last year. Would have loved to see the stage shows too. The radio show was fun too. For those looking to listen to some comedy, if people here can drag themselves away from listening to albums (I regularly listen to radio comedies on BBC iPlayer, the On the Town with the League of Gentlemen radio series is available at https://archive.org/details/TheLeagueOfGentlemenBBCRadioRip" rel="nofollow - https://archive.org/details/TheLeagueOfGentlemenBBCRadioRip I don't think that Reece Shearmsith or Steve Pemberton would mind me mentioning that it's been archived, but BBC might. Mea culpa. I listen to more podcasts and radio programs than I do music, which might be considered heretical here by some (maybe I'll tweet Reece, he's surprisingly responsive). I also love other Reece Shearsmith and Steve Pemberton shows such as Inside No. 9 and Psychoville, and of course Mark Gatiss has had huge success. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:52
That's interesting to know, thanks (I haven't been a comic book reader, and have only looked at a few graphic novels, and I'm sure there are various people here who are much more knowledgeable about such things than I am). ------------------------------------------------------- One I'm rather surprised to see with no votes is Persepolis (one of the animated offerings in my list), I loved it and I have read that it is very faithful to the source material. It won and was nominated for various awards in 2007, including winning the Jury Prize at Cannes. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:53
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the thread about "very little known movies that deserve more interest" interests me much more, but apparently hardly anyone else but Friede and me ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:06
Posting the first part of our conversation to keep it together since we're on page two.
Well, I posted thrice in your topic, and said that it was a good topic. Sorry if you don't find this topic that interesting. I find all topics interesting as long as people are having discussion, and I do try to engage people's posts in the topics that I start, which I think generates more interest, as well as in others, and I do try show that I am interested in what they have to say generally -- I always appreiciate thoughtful responses (doesn't mean we can't disagree, but I try not to be close-minded and open to new-to-me discoveries). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:11
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I am not very much into graphic novels in the first place, the ones
by SOKAL being the exception because nothing compares to them. here some images from SOKAL comics:    ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:34
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Sorry if this sounds like I'm talking at cross-purposes (the best discussions have a certain synthesis of ideas for me). I'm not really into graphics novels either, but, and I was trying to get at this, one doesn't need to enjoy them to enjoy films that are inspired by or based on graphic novels. I doubt most people who saw Blue is the Warmest Colour know the graphic novel that it was based on (I didn't know it was based on a graphic novel when I saw it). Maybe you would also like the Blue is the Warmest Colour one. I would like to see the Persopolis graphic novel as I think it's both interesting subject matter and would have an emotional reaction in me (I think you might enjoy it too). Graphic novels can inspire great, artistic films, and can be great and artistic themselves. Sometimes you can get a great film inspired bya poor one, and often a poor one inspired by a great one. Perhaps nothing might compare to the Sokal ones, though I'd be surprised if that's totally true, but I'll take your word for it as I expect you must then have searched for similar ones despite not being a fan of the genre. EDIT: I misspoke, I meant a fan of the medium as it encompasses many genres which is important to what I've been saying. One might say the same of some others on the list (I wouldn't know as I'm hardly an expert). I'm quite good at finding comparisons, but I'm quite ignorant when it comes to comics and graphic novels. I hope someone here can find something that might appeal to a Sokal fan. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 12:58
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By the way, Jean, I withdraw my recommendation of Blue is the Warmest Colour (which frankly, I didn't like that much). The fact that it's too straight girls pretending to be lesbians and it has the most ridiculous ten minute sex scene, and that the trailer wasn't enough to pique your interest, does not, in my opinion, make it worth recommending. I had hoped that Persepolis might be of some interest (but if not, that's cool). And sorry if I came across like you're not keeping enough of an open mind when it comes to Graphic Novel adaptations (I also think that your topic is more interesting). From rottentomatoes:
You mentioned some voluntary work with refugees as I recall, so I thought the subject matter might interest you (I could very well be wrong). It resonates more with me since I have so many Persian friends whose families left because of the Ayatollah Khomeini's rise to power. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 07:34
| I never saw most of these but I couldn't leave Ghost in the Shell without a single vote. I keep telling myself I should watch Akira. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:02
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Yep, well deserving of a vote. I liked Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence too. Did you see the recent live action one with Scarlett Johansson? I wasn't expecting much from the film, but was still left a little disappointed. For a Scarlett Johansson film, Under the Skin was haunting. I already voted for Oldboy (more people should see this, but watch the original Korean version and not the US remake), and now I will add a vote for Persepolis. It's a beautiful animated film based on a graphic autobiography, which makes it all the more poignant to me, and the story remains very relevant to our world. I'll also give a vote to Snowpiercer because maybe no else would. It's one of my favourite modern speculative fiction films (features the venerable John Hurt, Tilda Swinton and Ed Harris amongst others). I think The Host, which has become a cult film, by Bong Joon-ho is my favourite of his. And because no else would vote for the 20th Century Boys trilogy, I will (the title references the T.Rex song). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:18
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:35
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Hi, I wish I could post and comment on these films and thread. Having switch countries at 9 years old and then again at 15, I missed out a lot of the kid stuff, and of course, in America, I did not know the language which cut out these graphical "jeebees" (as they were called in Brazil), for me, and I never even got a single inch of appreciation for Marvel, or any of those here. I think that I prefer the cartoons that film makers can create out of nothing ... Derek Jarman comes to mind! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:47
No problem. I consider the difference between graphic novel and trade paperback as such shown below. (but this is merely my opinion. Others may consider the two terms to be interchangeable) Graphic Novel - original content never before published Trade Paperback - comic series or comic story arc collected and reprinted in a volume. That separation comes from when I was collecting comics in the early 80s and Marvel started it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Graphic_Novel" rel="nofollow - graphic novel line. These were all new stories. Basically they were just larger thicker comic books. DC had its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Graphic_Novel" rel="nofollow - own line as well, as did some other companies.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 10:19
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Is Jack 'King' Kirby the godfather of the graphic novel? For if so the Fourth World series is then perhaps the first comic to be one long serial comic epic story with a following arc. There are plans of making it to tv-series. Im looking forward to that. -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 05:15
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I don't know, but I have read in more than one place that the first real graphic novel was Will Eisner's A Contract With God and Other Tenement Stories, which was published in 1978.. Apparently outside of the US there are others that could take that claim (the term was coined in the 60s as I recall). From brittanica.com "While it is almost impossible to identify any one text as the original graphic novel, many hold Eisner’s A Contract with God, and Other Tenement Stories (1978) to be one of the most important early examples of the graphic novel in the United States. Books like Eisner’s made clear the demand for more sophisticated comics, and the result was something of a boom in so-called adult comics in the mid- to late 1980s, which was centred around three works: Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns (1986), Alan Moore’s Watchmen (1986–87), and the Pulitzer Prize-winning Maus (1980–86) by Art Spiegelman. The defining attribute of each was a formal control of the medium—which is to say, a highly sophisticated degree of control over the use of panel transitions, layout, and so on to achieve certain narrative effects—coupled with artistic innovation and a literary quality in which the authors announced their individual style."
Thanks, that is an interesting distiction from cmics merely being published in periodicals and graphic novels being comics that read like novel in book form. The term is contentious, and like with so many other terms, it can mean different things all of which are valid. methinks. The following is another excerpt from https://www.britannica.com/art/graphic-novel" rel="nofollow - https://www.britannica.com/art/graphic-novel and found to be an interesting read. I've quoted too much of it in this post. "The term graphic novel is contentious. From the 1970s, as the field of comic studies was first emerging as an academic discipline, scholars and others have attempted to define the word comics and to generate a critical terminology appropriate to support that definition. The debate over so-called graphic novels touches upon this complex situation. For many, the word comics denotes a periodical for children, published on a weekly or monthly basis, sold at newsstands or in speciality comic book stores, often with pages devoted to advertising and, when intended for younger readers, competitions and puzzles. In contrast, graphic novel is usually taken to mean a long comic narrative for a mature audience, published in hardback or paperback and sold in bookstores, with serious literary themes and sophisticated artwork. However, these distinctions are somewhat spurious, as comics are found in all shapes and formats, appeal to many different groups and age ranges, and encompass a huge variety of genres and styles. Moreover, graphic novels are often not original publications but rather repackaged collections of serially published comics. While some material is produced especially for the graphic novel market, bookshops and libraries make no real distinction, so the term graphic novel often serves no serious descriptive purpose. It may perhaps be more properly understood as a marketing term intended to resituate comics for an audience uncomfortable with or embarrassed by the associations that surround them (i.e., that a reader of comics is juvenile and subliterate). The extent to which the term signifies a difference in style or form from comics is negligible, but it must be noted that texts that are originally intended for publication in book form sometimes take advantage of the possibilities for a longer narrative, different formats, and superior paper quality, which can be seen as an argument for preserving the distinction between comics and graphic novels. The argument is further complicated by the fact that the supposed need for the term graphic novel grows out of what might be considered American and British cultural prejudices. No equivalent term is required in continental Europe or in Japan, where the acceptance of comics as both an art form and a literary mode is unproblematic. In Europe, and especially in France, comics, or bande dessinée (“drawn strips”), have long been collected in high-quality albums, with themes and styles appropriate to a mature audience. This adult comic culture has coexisted very comfortably with comics for children, with no supposed contradiction in terms. In Japan a huge proportion of the population routinely reads comics (called manga), which achieve a dizzying variety of genres and themes. The emergence of the term graphic novel must therefore be understood in terms of the cultural attitudes that shaped it." ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 07:07
As I said to Jean. there's a huge amount of variety in graphic novels and films inspired by graphic novels. It's not generic and one finds them around the world. I haven't been a comics fan either, but that doesn't mean that I wont enjoy films that are inspired by them. In this list, we have animated films, live action films, action films, romantic films, political, a coming of age lesbian drama, comedies etc. Perhaps I should offer a description of all of them (I'll quote from use rotten tomatoes for those not familiar with these: Oldboy (live action): "South Korean filmmaker Park Chan-wook directed this violent and offbeat story of punishment and vengeance. Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) is a husband and father whose reputation for womanizing is well known. One day, for reasons he doesn't understand, Oh Dae-su finds himself locked up in a prison cell, with no idea of what his crime was or whom his jailers may be. With a small television as his only link to the outside world and a daily ration of fried dumplings as his only sustenance, Oh Dae-su struggles to keep his mind and body intact, but when he learns through a news report that his wife has been killed, he begins a long and difficult project of digging an escape tunnel with a pair of chopsticks. Before he can finish -- and after 15 years behind bars -- Oh Dae-su is released, with as little explanation as when he was locked up, and he's soon given a wad of money and a cellular phone by a bum on the street. Emotionally stunted but physically strong after 15 years in jail, Oh Dae-su struggles to unravel the secret of who is responsible for locking him up, what happened to his wife and daughter, and how to best get revenge against his captors. Oldeuboi was screened in competition at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and won the coveted Grand Prix. Rating: R (for strong violence including scenes of torture, sexuality and pervasive language) Genre: Drama, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: Chan-wook Park Written By: Chan-wook Park, Lim Joon-hyung, Hwang Jo-yun, Lim Jun-hyeong" Akira (animated): "One of the best-known examples of contemporary Japanese animation, this cyberpunk adventure takes place in the post-apocalyptic city of Neo-Tokyo. A teen-age boy is exposed to a mysterious energy source and develops telekinetic powers that place him at the center of a conflict that may destroy the world. Rating: R (for graphic violence and brief nudity) Genre: Action & Adventure, Animation, Drama, Mystery & Suspense, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Katsuhiro Ôtomo Written By: Katsuhiro Ôtomo, Izo Hashimoto" Battle Royale (live action): "A long-unavailable underground hit that anticipated The Hunger Games novels by eight years, veteran director Fukasaku's epically violent, still-controversial and deeply influential genre masterpiece takes place in a dystopian alternate universe. In the near future, the economy has collapsed, unemployment has soared and juvenile crime has exploded. Fearful of its nation's youth, the Japanese government passes The BR Law: Each year, a 9th grade class is sent to a remote island where they will be locked into exploding neck collars, given a random weapon, and forced to hunt and kill each other until there is only one survivor left. Battle Royale follows one such class, with an ice-cold performance from Takeski Kitano as the group's teacher. -- (C) Anchor Bay Rating: NR Genre: Action & Adventure, Art House & International, Drama, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: Kinji Fukasaku Written By: Kenta Fukasaku" A History of Violence (live action): Tom Stall is living a happy and quiet life with his lawyer wife and their two children in the small town of Millbrook, Indiana, but one night their idyllic existence is shattered when Tom foils a vicious attempted robbery in his diner. Sensing danger, he takes action and saves his customers and friends in the self-defense killings of two-sought-after criminals. Heralded as a hero, Tom's life is changed overnight, attracting a national media circus, which forces him into the spotlight. Uncomfortable with his newfound celebrity, Tom tries to return to the normalcy of his ordinary life only to be confronted by a mysterious and threatening man who arrives in town believing Tom is the man who's wronged him in the past. As Tom and his family fight back against this case of mistaken identity and struggle to cope with their changed reality, they are forced to confront their relationships and the divisive issues which surface as a result. Rating: R (for strong brutal violence, graphic sexuality, nudity, language and some drug use) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: David Cronenberg Written By: Josh Olson V for Vendetta (live action): "Based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore, V for Vendetta takes place in an alternate vision of Britain in which a corrupt and abusive totalitarian government has risen to complete power. During a threatening run in with the secret police, an unassuming young woman named Evey (Natalie Portman) is rescued by a vigilante named V (Hugo Weaving) -- a caped figure both articulate and skilled in combat. V embodies the principles of rebellion from an authoritarian state, donning a mask of vilified would-be terrorist of British history Guy Fawkes and leading a revolution sparked by assassination and destruction. Evey becomes his unlikely ally, newly aware of the cruelty of her own society and her role in it. ~ Cammila Albertson, Rovi Rating: R (for strong violence and some language) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama, Mystery & Suspense, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: James McTeigue Written By: Lilly Wachowski, Lana Wachowski" 20th Century Boys 1: Beginning of the End (20-seiki shônen: Honkaku kagaku bôken eiga (which has a rotten score with only few reviews despite being box office hit in Japan -- If I didn't mention it already, there's one for Icarium's topic) It's one of those films that I think you have to be familiar with Japanese culture to get: "A burned-out rocker discovers his doom-struck adolescent fantasies are coming true in this futuristic thriller from Japan. Ever since his career as a musician crashed and burned, Kenji (Toshiaki Karasawa) has been making a living working at a quick-stop store and living with his family. One day, police officers stop by and ask Kenji about a family of regular customers who've gone missing, though Kenji has hardly noticed their absence. When Kenji visits the home of the missing family, he notices a strange piece of graffiti on the wall, and is startled when he remembers it was the symbol of a club of teenage misfits he belonged to years ago. Kenji and his friends in the club created an amateur comic book that imagined an apocalyptic future in which strange illnesses and bands of armed insurgents threatened to destroy the world. As a wave of unexplained murders sweeps through the city, overseas the events of Kenji's old comic are beginning to come true; a fanatical cult known as Friend found the book and under the leadership of Sadakiyo they've made it their business to turn it into a reality, and now Kenji and his old friends have to infiltrate the cult and stop them before it's too late. 20-seiki shonen (aka 20th Century Boys) was adapted from a best selling manga by Naoki Urasawa and became a major box office hit in Japan. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi Rating: NR Genre: Art House & International, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Yukihiko Tsutsumi Written By: Naoki Urasawa, Takashi Nagasaki, Yasushi Fukuda, Yusuke Watanabe" Watchmen: "300's Zack Snyder brings Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' critically acclaimed comic book Watchmen to the big screen, courtesy of DC Comics and Warner Bros. Pictures. Set in an alternate universe circa 1985, the film's world is a highly unstable one where a nuclear war is imminent between America and Russia. Superheroes have long been made to hang up their tights thanks to the government-sponsored Keene Act, but that all changes with the death of The Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan), a robust ex-hero commando whose mysterious free fall out a window perks the interest of one of the country's last remaining vigilantes, Rorschach (Jackie Earle Haley). His investigation leads him to caution many of his other former costumed colleagues, including Dr. Manhattan, Night Owl (Patrick Wilson), Ozymandias (Matthew Goode), Sally Jupiter (Carla Gugino), and her daughter, The Silk Spectre (Malin Akerman). Heralded for bringing the world of superheroes into the literary world, Watchmen gave the super-powered mythos a real-life grounding that had been missing in mainstream comics to that point. The film adaptation had languished in one form of development hell or another for years after the book's release, with various directors on and off the project, including Terry Gilliam, David Hayter, and Darren Aronofsky, as well as Paul Greengrass, whose eventual dismissal stemmed from budget conflicts with the studio. ~ Jeremy Wheeler, Rovi Rating: R (for strong graphic violence, sexuality, nudity and language) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Zack Snyder Written By: Alex Tse, David Hayter" Ghost World: "Set during the summer after they graduate from high school, two ultra-hip friends, Enid and Becky fear drifting apart when Enid considers moving across the country to attend college. When Enid develops an attraction to offbeat Seymour and Becky sets her sights on Josh - on whom both girls have a crush - their friendship is forever changed. Rating: R (for strong language and some sexual content) Genre: Comedy, Drama Directed By: Terry Zwigoff Written By: Daniel Clowes, Terry Zwigoff" Snowpiercer: "In this sci-fi epic from director Bong Joon Ho (The Host, Mother), a failed global-warming experiment kills off most life on the planet. The final survivors board the SNOWPIERCER, a train that travels around the globe via a perpetual-motion engine. When cryptic messages incite the passengers to revolt, the train thrusts full-throttle towards disaster. (c) TWC-Radius Rating: R (for violence, language and drug content) Genre: Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Bong Joon Ho Written By: Bong Joon Ho, Kelly Masterson" Sin City: "The Eisner Award-winning comic series Sin City comes to life in this live-action feature adaptation from director Robert Rodriguez and creator Frank Miller. Interweaving multiple storylines from the series' history, this violent crime noir paints the picture of the ultimate town without pity through the eyes of its roughest characters. There's the street thug Marv (Mickey Rourke), whose desperate quest to find the killer of a prostitute named Goldie (Jaime King) will lead him to the foulest edges of town. Inhabiting many of those areas is Dwight (Clive Owen), a photographer in league with the sordid ladies of Sin City, headed by Gail (Rosario Dawson), who opens up a mess of trouble after tangling with a corrupt cop by the name of Jackie Boy (Benicio Del Toro). Finally, there's Hartigan (Bruce Willis), an ex-cop with a heart problem who's hell-bent on protecting a stripper named Nancy (Jessica Alba). Featuring a who's who supporting cast that includes Elijah Wood, Brittany Murphy, Devon Aoki, and Nick Stahl, Sin City promises to be one of the most direct translations from page to screen of a comic series, with shots and dialogue adapted straight from the original comic's panels. Rodriguez quit the Director's Guild when they refused to let Frank Miller co-direct the film, a deal hashed out after the two collaborators developed and shot the opening scene utilizing a green-screen process to harness the stark, black-and-white look of the books as a litmus test for the rest of the production. Quentin Tarantino was brought in and reportedly paid one dollar to direct an extended scene between Del Toro and Owen that amounts to one issue of The Big Fat Kill miniseries. ~ Jeremy Wheeler, Rovi Rating: R (for sustained strong stylized violence, nudity and sexual content including dialogue) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: Robert Rodriguez, Quentin Tarantino, Frank Miller (II) Written By: Frank Miller (II), Robert Rodriguez" Persepolis (animated, which which features Catherine Deneuve as a voice actress, won the Cannes Jury Prize and Cesar Award for Best Feature Film and did well in various film festivals): "Marjane is precocious and outspoken young Iranian girl who was nine years old during the Islamic Revolution when the fundamentalists first take power--forcing the veil on women and imprisoning thousands. She cleverly outsmarts the "social guardians" and discovers punk, ABBA and Iron Maiden, while living with the terror of government persecution and the Iran/Iraq war. Then Marjane's journey moves on to Austria where, as a teenager, her parents send her to school in fear for her safety and, she has to combat being equated with the religious fundamentalism and extremism she fled her country to escape. Marjane eventually gains acceptance in Europe, but finds herself alone and horribly homesick, and returns to Iran to be with her family, although it means putting on the veil and living in a tyrannical society. After a difficult period of adjustment, she enters art school and marries, continuing to speak out against the hypocrisy she witnesses. At age 24, she realizes that while she is deeply Iranian, she cannot live in Iran. She then makes the heartbreaking decision to leave her homeland for France, optimistic about her future, shaped indelibly by her past. Rating: PG-13 (for mature thematic material including violent images, sexual references, language and brief drug content) Genre: Animation, Drama Directed By: Marjane Satrapi, Vincent Paronnaud Written By: Vincent Paronnaud, Marjane Satrapi" Death Note (Desu nôto) -- the 2006/2007 one (Death Note is my favourite anime television series): "Released into Japanese theaters in 2006, director Shusuke Kaneko's stylish adaptation of the best selling manga quickly trampled The Da Vinci Code on Japanese screens and subsequently and set box office records in Hong Kong and all across Asia. The plot picks up as aimless law student Light Yagami (Tetsuya Fujiwara) discovers a mysterious notebook in the middle of the street. Soon thereafter, Light discovers that if he writes a name in the notebook, that person will instantly die (generally of a heart attack). Of course it doesn't take long for Light to realize the extraordinary power he now holds, and before long he hatches a plan to rid the planet of crime by scribbling the name of notorious criminals in the pages of the powerful notebook and make the world a safer place for decent citizens everywhere. But Light isn't alone in his mission, because his new companion Ryuk - a flying god of death who only Light can see and who also happens to be the true owner of the notebook - is always there to egg him on and get a little laugh from the criminal holocaust. Over the course of the next few weeks, Light does away with millions of nefarious baddies and the global crime rate drops by seventy percent. Still, the police aren't too happy that a regular civilian seems to be taking the law into his own hands. Perhaps the only person capable of discovering Light's true identity is L (Kenichi Matsuyama) - a brilliant teenage detective with a taste for sweets and remarkable deductive reasoning skills. When the police chief (Takeshi Kaga of the hit television series Iron Chef) - who also happens to be Light's father - is assigned the task of unmasking the elusive killer, things really start to get interesting. A fast paced, goth-infused, cat-and-mouse thriller, Death Note was followed at the box office by the equally successful sequel Death Note: The Last Name just a few short months later. ~ Jason Buchanan, Rovi Rating: NR Genre: Action & Adventure, Animation, Anime & Manga, Art House & International, Drama, Mystery & Suspense" Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: "Based on Bryan Lee O'Malley's Oni Press comic book of the same name, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World follows the eponymous slacker rocker on his colorful quest to defeat his dream girl's seven evil ex-boyfriends. Twenty-two-year-old Scott Pilgrim (Michael Cera) may not have a job, but rocking the bass for his band, Sex Bob-omb, is a tough job unto itself. When Scott locks eyes with Ramona Flowers (Mary Elizabeth Winstead), he knows she's the girl he wants to grow old with. But Ramona has some serious baggage; her supercharged exes rue the thought of her being with another man, and they'll crush any guy who gives her a second glance. Now, in order to win Ramona's heart, Scott will do battle with everyone from vegan-powered rock gods to sinister skateboarders, never losing sight of his gorgeous goal as he pummels his way to victory. Shaun of the Dead's Edgar Wright directs the film from a script he penned with Michael Bacall. Superhero veterans Chris Evans and Brandon Routh co-star in the action comedy as two of the seven ex-boyfriends. ~ Jason Buchanan, Rovi Rating: PG-13 (for stylized violence, sexual content, language and drug references) Genre: Action & Adventure, Comedy, Romance Directed By: Edgar Wright Written By: Michael Bacall, Edgar Wright" Ghost in the Shell (1995, not the Hollywood one): "In the year 2029, the world has become interconnected by a vast electronic network that permeates every aspect of life. That same network also becomes a battlefield for Tokyo's Section Nine security force, which has been charged with apprehending the master hacker known only as the Puppet Master. Spearheading the investigation is Major Motoko Kusanagi, who -- like many in her department -- is a cyborg officer, far more powerful than her human appearance would suggest. And yet as the Puppet Master, who is even capable of hacking human minds, leaves a trail of victims robbed of their memories, Kusanagi ponders the very nature of her existence: is she purely an artificial construct, or is there more? What, exactly, is the "ghost" -- her essence -- in her cybernetic "shell"? When Section Six gets involved in the case, she is forced to confront the fact that there is more here than meets the eye, and that the Puppet Master may hold some of the answers she seeks. But little does she know that he has been seeking her as well. ~ Emru Townsend, Rovi Rating: R Genre: Animation, Anime & Manga, Art House & International, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Mamoru Oshii" Road to Perdition: "A hit man for an Irish gang in the Depression-era Midwest, hit man Michael Sullivan is known to friends and enemies alike as the Angel of Death. Uncompromising in his work, Sullivan is just as devoted to his private life as an upstanding husband and father of two young boys. But when those worlds collide, taking the lives of his wife and younger son, Sullivan and his surviving son, Michael Jr. leave their sedate home life behind and embark on a startling journey of revenge and self-discovery. Rating: R (for violence and language) Genre: Drama Directed By: Sam Mendes Written By: Max Allan Collins, Richard Piers Rayner, David Self" Red: "Frank, Joe, Marvin and Victoria used to be the CIA's top agents, but the secrets they know just made them the Agency's top targets. Now framed for assassination, they must use all of their collective cunning, experience and teamwork to stay one step ahead of their deadly pursuers and stay alive. To stop the operation, the team embarks on an impossible, cross-country mission to break into the top-secret CIA headquarters, where they will uncover one of the biggest conspiracies and cover-ups in government history. Rating: PG-13 (for intense sequences of action violence and brief strong language) Genre: Action & Adventure, Comedy, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: Robert Schwentke Written By: Erich Hoeber, Jon Hoeber" Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow (one of the most mainstream of offerings here): "The epic action of "Edge of Tomorrow" unfolds in a near future in which an alien race has hit the Earth in an unrelenting assault, unbeatable by any military unit in the world. Major William Cage (Tom Cruise) is an officer who has never seen a day of combat when he is unceremoniously dropped into what amounts to a suicide mission. Killed within minutes, Cage now finds himself inexplicably thrown into a time loop-forcing him to live out the same brutal combat over and over, fighting and dying again...and again. But with each battle, Cage becomes able to engage the adversaries with increasing skill, alongside Special Forces warrior Rita Vrataski (Emily Blunt). And, as Cage and Rita take the fight to the aliens, each repeated encounter gets them one step closer to defeating the enemy.(C) Warner Bros Rating: PG-13 (for intense sequences of sci-fi action and violence, language and brief suggestive material) Genre: Drama, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Doug Liman Written By: Dante Harper, Joby Harold, Christopher McQuarrie, Jez Butterworth, John-Henry Butterworth" Hellboy (should be one word): "Mike Mignola's acclaimed comic book series about a creature from Hades who joins the battle against evil arrives on the screen in vivid form in this adaptation directed by distinctive horror filmmaker Guillermo del Toro. During World War II, the Third Reich has joined forces with the evil Grigori Rasputin (Karel Roden), who has used his occult powers to summon up a young demon from the depth of Hell to be used as the ultimate Axis weapon. However, the demonic creature is captured by American forces, and put in the care of Professor Broom (John Hurt), the founder of a top-secret organization called the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense. Under Broom's tutelage, the creature develops empathy and a desire to do good while his physical powers and paranormal talents are honed to a fine point. Sixty years later, the demon, now known as Hellboy (Ron Perlman), is part of an elite secret defense team alongside Liz Sherman (Selma Blair), a beautiful young woman who can create fire with her mind, and Abe Sapian (Doug Jones), an aquatic humanoid with the power of telepathy. Despite his many years of fighting for right, Hellboy finds himself facing his greatest challenge when the powerful Rasputin returns, determined to bring the demon back to the forces of darkness so that evil may finally rule the world. Hellboy's supporting cast also includes Jeffrey Tambor, Rupert Evans, and Brian Steele. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi Rating: PG-13 (for sci-fi action violence and frightening images) Genre: Action & Adventure, Horror, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Guillermo del Toro Written By: Guillermo del Toro" American Splendor: "Harvey Pekar is file clerk at the local VA hospital. His interactions with his co-workers offer some relief from the monotony, and their discussions encompass everything from music to the decline of American culture to new flavors of jellybeans and life itself. At home, Harvey fills his days with reading, writing and listening to jazz. His apartment is filled with thousands of books and LPs, and he regularly scours Cleveland's thrift stores and garage sales for more, savoring the rare joy of a 25-cent find. It is at one of these junk sales that Harvey meets Robert Crumb, a greeting card artist and music enthusiast. When, years later, Crumb finds international success for his underground comics, the idea that comic books can be a valid art form for adults inspires Harvey to write his own brand of comic book. An admirer of naturalist writers like Theodore Dreiser, Harvey makes his "American Splendor" a truthful, unsentimental record of his working-class life, a warts-and-all self portrait. First published in 1976, the comic earns Harvey cult fame throughout the 1980s and eventually leads him to the sardonic Joyce Barber, a partner in a Delaware comic book store who end ups being Harvey's true soul mate as they experience the bizarre byproducts of Harvey's cult celebrity stature. Rating: R (for language) Genre: Art House & International, Comedy, Drama Directed By: Robert Pulcini, Shari Springer Berman Written By: Harvey Pekar, Shari Springer Berman, Robert Pulcini" Atomic Blonde: "A high-stakes, global action-thriller that takes place in the city of Berlin, on the eve of the Wall's collapse and the shifting of superpower alliances. Charlize Theron ("Mad Max: Fury Road") portrays Lorraine Broughton, a top-level spy for MI6, who is dispatched to Berlin to take down a ruthless espionage ring that has just killed an undercover agent for reasons unknown. She is ordered to cooperate with Berlin station chief David Percival (James McAvoy of "X-Men"), and the two form an uneasy alliance, unleashing their full arsenal of skills in pursuing a threat that jeopardizes the West's entire intelligence operation. Rating: R (for sequences of strong violence, language throughout, and some sexuality/nudity) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama, Mystery & Suspense Directed By: David Leitch Written By: Kurt Johnstad" Wanted: "esley's (James McAvoy) life is over - his pathetic old one, anyway... Fortunately, it is all because of a girl. Enter sizzling-hot Fox (Angelina Jolie), who crashes into his life and introduces him to the Fraternity, a secret society of assassins, led by the enigmatic Sloan (Morgan Freeman). Seems Wes's long-lost father was killed while working for the Fraternity and Wes has been selected to target the rogue member who murdered him. But before he can complete his assignment, Wes must first uncover the dark secrets behind the Fraternity in order to determine his own destiny. -- (C) Universal Rating: R (for strong bloody violence throughout, pervasive language and some sexuality) Genre: Action & Adventure, Mystery & Suspense, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Timur Bekmambetov Written By: Mark Millar, J.G. Jones, Chris Morgan, Derek Haas, Michael Brandt" The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (which has a really rotten score, and I ma inclined to agree): "Based on the comic book miniseries by Alan Moore, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen takes place in an alternate universe where the characters of several literary classics exist in reality. As if that weren't enough, they've been assembled together in 1900 by Queen Victoria as a team of evil-fighting heroes. Among them are Allan Quatermain (Sean Connery) from H. Rider Haggard's King Solomon's Mines; Mina Harker (Peta Wilson) from Bram Stoker's Dracula; Tom Sawyer (Shane West) from several works by Mark Twain; Dorian Gray (Stuart Townsend) from Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray; Captain Nemo (Naseeruddin Shah) from Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea; The Invisible Man (Tony Curran) from H.G. Wells book of the same name; and several others. Working together, the odd assortment of characters must combine their powers to defeat a mysterious villain and save the world from certain destruction. Directed by Stephen Norrington (Blade), The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen also stars Jason Flemyng, Tom Goodman-Hill, and David Hemmings. Rating: PG-13 (for intense sequences of fantasy violence, language and innuendo) Genre: Action & Adventure, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Stephen Norrington Written By: James Dale Robinson" 300 (not a fave of mine, but I thought get some votes): "Sin City author Frank Miller's sweeping take on the historic Battle of Thermopylae comes to the screen courtesy of Dawn of the Dead director Zack Snyder. Gerard Butler stars as Spartan King Leonidas and Lena Headey plays Queen Gorgo. The massive army of the Persian Empire is sweeping across the globe, crushing every force that dares stand in its path. When a Persian envoy arrives in Sparta offering King Leonidas power over all of Greece if he will only bow to the will of the all powerful Xerxes (Rodrigo Santoro), the strong-willed leader assembles a small army comprised of his empire's best fighters and marches off to battle. Though they have virtually no hope of defeating Xerxes' intimidating battalion, Leonidas' men soldier on, intent on letting it be known they will bow to no man but their king. Meanwhile, back in Sparta, the loyal Queen Gorgo attempts to convince both the skeptical council and the devious Theron (Dominic West) to send more troops despite the fact that many view Leonidas' unsanctioned war march as a serious transgression. As Xerxes' fearsome "immortals" draw near, a few noble Greeks vow to assist the Spartans on the battlefield. When King Leonidas and his 300 Spartan warriors fell to the overwhelming Persian army at the Battle of Thermopylae, the fearless actions of the noble fighters inspired all of Greece to stand up against their Persian enemy and wage the battle that would ultimately give birth to the modern concept of democracy. ~ Jason Buchanan, Rovi Rating: R (for graphic battle sequences throughout, some sexuality and nudity) Genre: Action & Adventure, Drama Directed By: Zack Snyder Written By: Michael Gordon, Kurt Johnstad, Zack Snyder, Michael B. Gordon" Tank Girl -- not as artistic a film as you might expect with a title like that (won't bother with the Cowboys one though I enjoyed it, but the title is self-explanatory): "This wild, futuristic action-fantasy is set in the year 2033 where drought and pollution have turned the Earth into a desert wasteland. The planet's water supply is controlled by a despotic company that is opposed by a few courageous rebels who regularly risk their lives to poach the precious fluid. Rating: R Genre: Action & Adventure, Comedy, Science Fiction & Fantasy Directed By: Rachel Talalay Written By: Tedi Sarafian" Blue is the Warmest Colour (don't feel the others in that option need introduction). It won the Palme d'Or, as I mentioned in an earliest post at Cannes, and has won many awards (I don't personally like it terribly much and I expect many would just watch it for the, imo, lame sex scene): "BLUE IS THE WARMEST COLOR centers on a 15-year-old girl named Adèle (Exarchopoulos) who is climbing to adulthood and dreams of experiencing her first love. A handsome male classmate falls for her hard, but an unsettling erotic reverie upsets the romance before it begins. Adèle imagines that the mysterious, blue-haired girl she encountered in the street slips into her bed and possesses her with an overwhelming pleasure. That blue-haired girl is a confident older art student named Emma (Seydoux), who will soon enter Adèle's life for real, making way for an intense and complicated love story that spans a decade and is touchingly universal in its depiction. (c) IFC Rating: NC17 (for explicit sexual content) Genre: Drama Directed By: Abdel Kechiche Written By: Abdel Kechiche, Ghalya Lacroix, Ghalia Lacroix" As an animated film (most are live action), I recommend Persepolis. I would have thought you might have seen A History of Violence simply because you're a cinephile and Cronenberg is such a big name. Even if you're not into action, and I'm not particularly, I do think that you might find the Korean Oldboy interesting. And V for Vendetta is worth watching, imo. I love Stehen Rea and Stephen Fry in it, and it features the magnificent and much missed by me (I got to meet him when he was filming in Vancouver) John Hurt. I think it has a silly moment, but I really love this film. I feel that John Hurt was such an inspired casting choice to play the Chancellor, especially as he played Winston Smith in a film version of 1984. I certainly don't think one needs to enjoy the likes of Marvel comics to enjoy most of these films. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 07:27
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 08:13
I'm a sloth and I like slow-paced (such as Paris, Texas, but that's for another topic). I loved the original and the sequel. Maybe it was a little heavy-handed on ideas, but I'm more idea-driven than action-driven. The live action remake I wouldn't have bothered with except that I subscribe to Netflix (Netflix Canada) and it was on, and we get so little stuff on it that piques my interest. I commonly like films that give me space to think and knowingly admire. I prefer novels in general, since I can more naturally stop reading and think about it rather than films which just seem to take you on a thrill ride. I thought it was a haunting, poetic, and a very well done existentialist piece, but Under the Skin is slow, so I wouldn't recommend it to most. "This becomes quite dull, even sleep-inducing, especially considering the movie's overall cast of slow-moving gloom" (Mick LaSalle, San Francisco Chronicle). But I babble. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 08:47
| ^ I learned to enjoy slower movies more recently, maybe I would like it more now. I prefer novels too, I spend much more time reading than watching movies. I think it's much more interesting to watch the movie in my head ;) |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 08:54
| Ghost World and American Splendor for me k |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 09:47
Well put, that's mostly why I like novels. It's often a strange experience when you read a novel and then see a movie based on it as it's so different to the "movie in your head". Same can be very true of graphic novels into movies.
Those are good ones. Thought maybe I should have recommended American Splendor to Moshkito. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 09:53
Do you know of any similar underground comics related ones?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 10:02
Not without doing a web search. I know very little about comics, though I used to collect the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers (for those that know it ;) ) . ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 10:45
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By the way, I'm really surprised to see Battle Royale with no votes. I suppose that it is quite exploitative and nasty. Those who liked The Hunger Games should watch this earlier film. I'm giving it a vote even though I feel guilty doing so (what with the level of violence we see in real life that involve school children). Tag (we really have far too little world cinema on Netflix Canada) is one that I caught on Netflix that might interest the same kind of somewhat warped people. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 11:13
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Had no idea American Splendor was sourced as a graphic novel. It was essentially a biopic, in as much as the comic of the same name was a bio-comic. Anyway, I would rank it #2 here behind V and just ahead of Hellboy (original only) and Ghostworld. Also, anything Frank Miller I find irritating. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 11:34
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Speaking of biopics, Crumb is a very good one. I wish there were more films based on his comics, I think Fritz the Cat is the only one. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 11:37
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Crumb I really enjoyed, and I love Fritz the Cat. Persepolis is a great biopic, I think. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 13:02
Something tells me "Mr. Natural" or "Bizarre Sex: The Movie" would not fly too well. At least in 'Murka. Vaughn Bodē would have likely translated to film better. But, yes, I enjoyed "Crumb". ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: August 28 2023 at 13:05
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I hope you don't mind me bumping this old poll. I voted: Oldboy - great film, haven't read the comic (I'm using this word so I don't have to type graphic novel over and over again) nor have I seen the US remake. Akira - great film, I've read the comic long ago but don't remember it well. Battle Royale - really great film, haven't read the comic. V for Vendetta - very good film, surprisingly I liked it more than the comic it's based on. Hellboy - the first film was absolutely great, the sequel everything but great. I love Hellboy comics. No votes but short comments: A History of Violence - hated the film, the comic was ok if I remember right. Watchmen - good film that was never going to be as great as the comic, which was one of the masterpieces of the medium. Ghost World - I've seen the film but don't remember it well, the comic is brilliant. All Daniel Clowes comics come highly recommended. Sin City - liked the film from a technical point of view, hated otherwise. I didn't like the comics either. Road to Perdition - haven't seen the film but read the comic not long ago. It was ok but didn't make want to see the film. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - crap film, comics had their moments, but sometimes Alan Moore is too sex-obsessed for my taste. 300 - silly and entertaining film and the same goes for the comic I guess Tank Girl - I've seen the film and read the comic but don't remember them well |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 28 2023 at 13:37
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Thanks for the bump. I thought I'd voted (or at least read this). This is my wheelhouse. Votes go to: Watchmen — This raised the bar for CBM cinema. For as much heat as Zack Snyder gets, you need somebody with his aesthetic to adapt a story with that kind of narrative and visual style. Plus, Zack always casts the right people. (Patrick Wilson as Nite Owl II? Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Comedian? Say no more.) The theatrical cut is great, but the Director's Cut is even better. Sin City — I "grew up with" Frank Miller's comics (Daredevil, Ronin, Batman: Year One, Sin City, Hard-Boiled) and this movie was OTT fun. It's acid noir, adeptly translated by a director who should be more highly regarded. Ghost World — I like Thora Birch and Steve Buscemi. (Who doesn't?) This is a beautifully immersive snapshot-scheme chronological piece, no "plot" necessary. Road to Perdition — As far as adaptations go, it's pretty on-the-nose. Read the GN, too. The art is sublime, like a cross between Brian Bolland and John Severin. Akira — 'Nuff said! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 28 2023 at 13:49
Love and Rockets by Los Bros. Hernandez (Jaime, Gilbert and Mario). A wholly original, from-the-ground-up self-contained "universe" — nothing else like it in the medium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Rockets_%28comics%29" rel="nofollow - Love and Rockets (comics) - Wikipedia  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |