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ArturdeLara
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 10:16 |
Elastic Murray wrote:
Some Beach Boys stuff rocks, and Linkin Park have some good stuff IMO. Some J-Poppy stuff isn't too bad either
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Beach Boys is great (almost proto-prog at times)
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"Those who are not shocked when they first come across Prog theory cannot possibly have understood it." - Niels Bohr
"If you think you understand Prog, you don't understand Prog." - Richard Feynman
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King Only
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 10:56 |
There's a lot of music I like that is generally considered 'uncool'...
I love Bruce Springsteen, The Eagles, Goo Goo Dolls, Jean Michel Jarre, The Cars, Tears For Fears, Phil Collins, Kitaro, Clannad, Enya... I also like some modern pop artists like Lana Del Rey, The Corrs... I love a lot of J-pop, K-pop and C-pop as well.
All of the above bands/singers are frequently criticized and made fun of by the media and people that I meet.
It doesn't bother me that most people think these artists are uncool... I just listen to what I like. Why spend your life denying who you are just because other people don't approve of it?
The most important thing is to be honest and true to yourself.
Edited by King Only - June 07 2013 at 10:57
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Melomaniac
Prog Reviewer
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Location: Canada
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 10:57 |
Genesis... the trio period, that is !
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 11:48 |
ArturdeLara wrote:
System of a Down, Lana Del Rey, Arcade Fire, Coldplay (btw Viva la Vida is a prog album, sorry ), U2 (experimental/ art rock phase), and many others... Also, I'm very into extreme metal, particularly death and folk metal. Many prog fans seem to dislike metal, for some reason... |
Most prog fans seem to dislike metal? Where did you get that idea?
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HolyMoly
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 11:58 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ArturdeLara wrote:
System of a Down, Lana Del Rey, Arcade Fire, Coldplay (btw Viva la Vida is a prog album, sorry ), U2 (experimental/ art rock phase), and many others... Also, I'm very into extreme metal, particularly death and folk metal. Many prog fans seem to dislike metal, for some reason... | Most prog fans seem to dislike metal? Where did you get that idea? |
It's true, many prog fans (not "most") dislike metal.. It's just that the ones who actually do like metal are usually very loud people.
Edited by HolyMoly - June 07 2013 at 11:59
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Jonathan
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 17:20 |
I like Heavy Metal as long as it isn't Black Metal, Mathcore, Grunge Rock, or Post-Grunge. I'll explain why.
The reason for my dislike of Black Metal is because the bands they are a bit too Anti-Religious with their lyrics.
For Mathcore it's because The Vocals are WAY too loud and the Instrumentation is a bit sloppy IMHO.
For Grunge Rock it's because of the "I hate my parents, I hate the world" kind of attitude in the lyrics, Which I can't stand and I could never relate to the songs.
And for Post-Grunge although the Lyrics are better it's still mostly boring to my ears and too Mainstream.
Edited by Jonathan - June 07 2013 at 20:31
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"Do not do to others as you don't want done to yourself."- Confucius
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otto pankrock
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Location: canada
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 18:21 |
Venom, Enya Anyone heard the Big F's first album?
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:13 |
I need a list of bands 'that prog fans generally hate'....before I can even give an answer. I have a pretty extensive prog collection yet I still like many pop, rock, country rock, and alt- indie bands.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:43 |
Disturbed
Godsmack
Metallica ( they are hated by a ton of proggers)
Lacuna coil
Evanesance
Vast
System of a down
Linken park
The cure
80's genesis ( I know that's true, especially here on PA! Lol)
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:47 |
JJLehto wrote:
Punk. That seems to get the "wtf" of many on PADon't worry only classic or "street" or "true" punk. No green day or blink 182 crap!
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Very true. I hate a ton of punk. The only punk bands I like are THE RAMONES and THE OFFSPRING
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:48 |
progbethyname wrote:
Disturbed
Godsmack
Metallica ( they are hated by a ton of proggers)
Lacuna coil
Evanesance
Vast
System of a down
Linken park
The cure
80's genesis ( I know that's true, especially here on PA! Lol) |
Gotta a few more.
Love the offspring, The ramones and Slipknot.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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jayem
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Posted: June 07 2013 at 23:00 |
I only put the very few I've really enjoyed:
A-ha's two first albums Yes's 90125 Genesis's Genesis
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MillsLayne
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 01:41 |
Not sure that they're hated in prog circles, but quite a few non-prog bands/artists that I love:
Alice In Chains Soundgarden (proggy at times and also the greatest band, ever) Nirvana Stone Temple Pilots Foo Fighters Silverchair System Of A Down Deftones Dethklok (Yeah, I know it's a fictional band, but I like the music)
I even enjoy certain video game music, mainly from the original Mega Man and X series'.
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ArturdeLara
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 05:26 |
Jonathan wrote:
I like Heavy Metal as long as it isn't Black Metal, Mathcore, Grunge Rock, or Post-Grunge. I'll explain why.
The reason for my dislike of Black Metal is because the bands they are a bit too Anti-Religious with their lyrics.
For Mathcore it's because The Vocals are WAY too loud and the Instrumentation is a bit sloppy IMHO.
For Grunge Rock it's because of the "I hate my parents, I hate the world" kind of attitude in the lyrics, Which I can't stand and I could never relate to the songs.
And for Post-Grunge although the Lyrics are better it's still mostly boring to my ears and too Mainstream.
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Well, I've got to admit that I don't usually feel very uncomfortable with anti-religious lyrics I agree with you about mathcore, and that is a problem I also find in other "-cores" such as deathcore. I really prefer the slower, more mature brutality of death metal. I really don't consider grunge a metal genre, but everything you say about it is true. I also find it really difficult to relate to.
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"Those who are not shocked when they first come across Prog theory cannot possibly have understood it." - Niels Bohr
"If you think you understand Prog, you don't understand Prog." - Richard Feynman
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ArturdeLara
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 05:37 |
I also enjoy some 30 Seconds to Mars (I'm not a fan at all though). I've been enjoying their last album, it has some nice symphonic and proggy moments (wether they ARE prog is a whole nother thing). I've come to realize that 30STM are a good band with an awful singer who writes awful lyrics.
Oh, and this is not a band, but I also like the song that was released last year by a pretty well known band and got lots of hate, whatsitsname, Un... Uns... Unsus... Oh nevermind, I can't remember.
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"Those who are not shocked when they first come across Prog theory cannot possibly have understood it." - Niels Bohr
"If you think you understand Prog, you don't understand Prog." - Richard Feynman
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jude111
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 07:43 |
MillsLayne wrote:
Not sure that they're hated in prog circles, but quite a few non-prog bands/artists that I love:
Alice In Chains Soundgarden (proggy at times and also the greatest band, ever) Nirvana Stone Temple Pilots Foo Fighters
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I hate all those bands, so you're safe
Edited by jude111 - June 08 2013 at 07:43
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 11:19 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 11:45 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ArturdeLara wrote:
System of a Down, Lana Del Rey, Arcade Fire, Coldplay (btw Viva la Vida is a prog album, sorry ), U2 (experimental/ art rock phase), and many others... Also, I'm very into extreme metal, particularly death and folk metal. Many prog fans seem to dislike metal, for some reason... | Most prog fans seem to dislike metal? Where did you get that idea? | It's true, many prog fans (not "most") dislike metal.. It's just that the ones who actually do like metal are usually very loud people.
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Oops ... used a wrong word. ... Many prog fans dislike metal ... I believe we are talking prog and non-prog put together. As per the high volume issue, you have to be loud. That's just how it rolls on the concerts, especially in large venues ... unless I'm missing something. I thought volume helps you feel the tone of the guitar, no?
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A Person
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Posted: June 08 2013 at 11:46 |
k-pop and j-pop, i guess
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Evangelion2014
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Posted: June 09 2013 at 02:10 |
Jonathan wrote:
I like Heavy Metal as long as it isn't Black Metal, Mathcore, Grunge Rock, or Post-Grunge. I'll explain why.
The reason for my dislike of Black Metal is because the bands they are a bit too Anti-Religious with their lyrics.
For Mathcore it's because The Vocals are WAY too loud and the Instrumentation is a bit sloppy IMHO.
For Grunge Rock it's because of the "I hate my parents, I hate the world" kind of attitude in the lyrics, Which I can't stand and I could never relate to the songs.
And for Post-Grunge although the Lyrics are better it's still mostly boring to my ears and too Mainstream.
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I can't stand post-grunge's lyrics or chord structure (verse chorus, power chords for the whole song with maybe an intro riff), it's pretty much devolved into cock rock lyrics or the whining you described in grunge. Grunge's lyrics tend to have more of a 'word salad' style (nirvana, soundgarden) and more complex instrumentation make it better than post-grunge for me. Meh, I've been listening to black metal for like 7 years, and the anti-religious lyrics never got to me, but that's probably because I'm an athiest and i'm still not great and deciphering the shrieks. With most black metal bands (Except for certain members of the norweigan 2nd wave, e.g. mayhem, burzum) the imagery and lyrics are intentionally over the top and for show. The raw production and sometimes simple structure of the songs could get to some prog fans I suppose, though some bands like enslaved, deathspell omega, sigh and blut aus nord are quite proggy and have good production. For me I guess it would maybe be some of the more underground rap I tend to listen to like Immortal technique, deltron 3030 and MC chris. Also, prog fans hate metal? Weird, because I would think there would be a large ammount of crossover from both to each other. I mean, they're both genres that started from rock but have grown to something somewhat apart from it, both have an emphasis on virtuosity and riffwork, a penchant for unconventional song structures and lyrical content different from the popular norm. Now, do prog fans hate the more underground metal or just the more mainstream, poppier stuff like say, disturbed, korn, avenged sevenfold, asking alexandria? Cause I like prog (haven't dug hugely into it) and have listened to a massive ammount of metal, and I like them for a lot of the same reasons.
Edited by Evangelion2014 - June 09 2013 at 02:14
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