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Smurph
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 10:54 | |||
WTF. carbohydrates do make you fat. I'm a fatass, take it from me. I have eaten a lot of carbs in my life.
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Dean
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 10:58 | |||
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:00 | |||
^word!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:06 | |||
What I meant is that doesn't have HDL Cholesterol The problem is that you eat the bacon fried, and that increases even more the LDL (Remember, even vegetable oil saturates when fried). That's the problem that USA has on children obesity, they eat a lot of LDL cholesterol saturated food (Burgers, bacon fried eggs, etc). Iván |
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darkshade
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:09 | |||
Parents let their children eat that stuff as early as age 2!!!! Children should not be be allowed to eat anything like that until they're in first grade or something, and even then, it should be very moderate. I don't care if it's homemade for from MACdonalds.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:09 | |||
Do you? It isn't necessary. A huge amount of people grill it. If I do fry I use a scant amount of oil and then I use kitchen tissue to drain the excess.
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darkshade
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:11 | |||
I know most restaurants around here cook their bacon in the oven. Don't know about fast food places though.
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 11:26 | |||
My daughter ate fatback before she was a year old. |
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Dean
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 12:30 | |||
Heating unsaturated fats at very high temperatures does change their molecular structure - what they do not do is become saturated - to saturate fat you need to add more hydrogen to the chain of carbon atoms - heat alone does not do this.
Eating high cholesterol foods does not cause obesity and does not result in high cholesterol levels. Eating too much anything causes obesity, obesity is caused by excessive calorie consumption - whether that is saturated or unsaturated fat, protein, sugars, starches - whatever, eat too many calories and you body tries to store the excess as fat. Obesity causes many problems, high cholesterol levels is one of them, diabetes is another - the causal direction is that obesity induces high cholesterol, not that high cholesterol causes obesity.
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dtguitarfan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
Posted: June 14 2012 at 12:37 | |||
I remember when I was in college I worked at this snack shop that had burgers and philly cheesesteaks and such. And every single night I'd see these guys from the cross country team come in and eat a 2nd dinner that would rival most people's first dinners, and they were as skinny as rails. |
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darkshade
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 12:40 | |||
I just meant on a regular basis. |
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Dean
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 12:43 | |||
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 13:40 | |||
Well, lets see
8 grams of bacon (One strip) has 9 Mg of cholesterol..OK This means 1,12 Mgms of BAD cholesterol for each gram of bacon OK? With 10 strips of bacon, you have eaten your 1/3 day ration of cholesterol...OK? This: or this: Have at least 10 times the level of bad cholesterol for a week That's what I said. Now, you are right, the vegetable oil doesn't saturate when fried, but if it reaches the smoke point, is also very harmful. Iván |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: June 14 2012 at 13:50 | |||
and I said:
That sandwich contains 1 lb (453.6g) of bacon [that is the actual value, not a random guess at the number of strips] - which is 2 times your daily allowance, not 10 times your weekly allowance.
OK?
Yes- as I said, the molecular structure changes, the chemical formula does not.
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 13:52 | |||
A heated argument about bacon? Must be Prog Archives.
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Tapfret
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 16:45 | |||
Cheese, like all dairy products do contain carbohydrates. Mind you the protein/carb ratio is high. Remember milk's purpose is to feed the offspring of whatever creature it comes from and requires some sort of sugar. Meat, except liver and processed meats, are carb free. (muscle=protein and fat) |
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Dean
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 16:54 | |||
I stand corrected - cheese is low-carb, not zero-carb - but in relation to a philly cheesesteaks the percentage carbs added by the cheese is miniscule compared to the bun it's wrapped in.
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Tapfret
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 17:06 | |||
^What is not miniscule is my sudden desire for a philly cheesesteak.
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darkshade
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 17:08 | |||
I'm so hungry right now.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 17:24 | |||
But he read it on the internet! |
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