Non Capitalist Government

None of the above. All can easily turn to dictatorship

inrainbows wrote: None of the above. All can easily turn to dictatorship

Especially dictatorship for some strange reason.  I would not be surprised to see anarchy turn into total anarchy though...

Slartibartfast wrote: inrainbows wrote: None of the above. All can easily turn to dictatorship Especially dictatorship for some strange reason.  I would not be surprised to see anarchy turn into total anarchy though...

of course, and this is a "nightmare senario"

inrainbows wrote: CPicard wrote: inrainbows wrote: None of the above. All can easily turn to dictatorship Including anarchy??? yeah, including anarchy. This does not mean, the anarchists will become dictators, but the facists are waiting opportunities like this

Wait, what?

Yeaaaaahhhhh... I feel a slight flaw in your logic.

My benevolent dictatorship will be perfect. Don't y'all worry

Anarchism believes in human nature more than it has to be i think. I vote to communism. In the end what they aim for social order is very close but in communism you need an evoluation period for changing social structure. Anarchism is like a river has no foreseable path to go. Communism also has a good structured theory open to progress. There are new forms of Marxist theories developed considering the recent developments and social experiences. While considering the USSR dissappointment you must also consider the pain and failures caused by capitalism and as a result imperialism. It's a loop of failures again and again makes people suffer. We are still one of the many other crisis now, apart from local ones. Many people loosing their future, many of them even didn't have a future. Either you call it communism or another better pathway to be developed best way is a human centered well theorized governing structure which is away from leadership of someone or a group of people and capital.

Seyo wrote: Anarchy. Unlike communism and dictatorship, so far nobody ever tried it in practice, so let's be bold and PROGRESSIVE...

Actually there are succesful anarchism experiments of small communities in the world like Whiteaway Colony in Gloucestershire and many other short existed. But big scale examples seems to took part in times of disorder or revolution.

crimson87 wrote: rpe9p wrote: Communism in reality is like a much worse version of a dictatorship.  Of these I'd rather live in a dictatorship by a mile. By the way, did you mean to put non-democratic in the title because not capitalist doesnt necessarily mean not a democracy   Only someone that hasn't experienced such terror can say something like that. I agree on the second sentence though.   Why do I get the feel that some people think that non liberalism  isautomatically bad?? I mean , you are putting three bad systems as an alternative. Capitalism wont last forever , it's been with us in it's modern form for just 125 years which is nothing in terms of history. Sure , it's been building up more or less since the fall of the Western Roman Empire but other alternatives will be found. However , a catasthrophe has to happen for it to dissapear. I guess there is no turning back from capitalism , it was just natural for it to rule our lives due to the constant technical innovation society mades ( and greed of course)

Negoba wrote: We need a more stacked social structure where there are more social group supports outside the nuclear family and commercial entities. Not to eliminate them, but to fill things out. Living nearby extended family, neighborhood responsibilities, these things need to be more the norm.

Problem is, people hate responsibilities.

I'd vote Socialism if it were there, the closest is Communism. Anarchy might be interesting but I don't know how that would work out.