SOMALIA RULES, RUSSIA DROOLS!

Deciding to be an autarky has nothing to do with capitalism though. Maybe I'm being dumb, but even mercantilism doesn't seem like a contradiction with capitalism to me.

Although I have to say both sound pretty bad. Is comparative advantage really so hard to understand? I got a D in Macroeconomics, I think I know what I'm talking about. ;-)

 

Vote for communism here.

 

Only someone that hasn't experienced such terror can say something like that. I agree on the second sentence though.

 

Why do I get the feel that some people think that non liberalism  isautomatically bad?? I mean , you are putting three bad systems as an alternative. Capitalism wont last forever , it's been with us in it's modern form for just 125 years which is nothing in terms of history. Sure , it's been building up more or less since the fall of the Western Roman Empire but other alternatives will be found. However , a catasthrophe has to happen for it to dissapear.

I guess there is no turning back from capitalism , it was just natural for it to rule our lives due to the constant technical innovation society mades ( and greed of course)

 

 

No point in comparing them in my view , I can't get how people choose a dictatorship over Comunism because if we are refering to just the economical part of comunism , it can't be as bad as a dictatorship in which you can't vote speak , think or even be...

COMMUNISM = STALIN HURR DURR HURR DURR

 

Voting for anarchist communism.

 

.... wait, that's capitalism...

Hey, back off the hatred of capitalism. Damn internet commies!

Leningrad wrote: Voting for anarchist communism.

How does that even work?

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if you own a sodastream i hate you

 

Until I grew up and became a textbook conservative.

 

Couldn't say it any better myself. Economic equality will never be achieved so the focus needs to be on social equality and rights; that way opportunities to rise economically are feasible. In a communist state such as the Soviet Union, those rights weren't present and thus the stagnant economy-which is seen in other communist nations as well (Vietnam only began to revitalize itself after adopting capitalist policies)

 

Yep - that's about right. Sell the theory to the plebians and once they've bought it, shaft 'em in any way you can - profiteering personally at the same time too of course.

 

Politics, IMO, is intrinsically and inherently dishonestly practiced by the vast majority of politicians.

 

I'm no Anarchist - ie I don't want my house trashed by marauding bands of anarchic Emokids - Communism is the ultimate example of great theory and crappy practice and, as for Dictatorship , well - history has proved how horrifying that can be - especially as the demise of the dictator and his cronies approacheth.

 

I actually think the poll's quite thought-provoking (hence the post), but don't ask me to vote - whichever one I picked would make me the turkey voting for Christmas.

 

And if anyone wants to flame me, my ideal political situation would be SOCIALISM PRACTISED WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY BY THE GOVERNMENT.

 

So it's a shame that we're half way there in the UK then...

Anarcho communism is even sillier than anarchy or communism. 

And I think Lowtax doesn't like it when you steal his gifs.

 

Sure I am - but only in the first and last sentences.

 

Not really. It's how many isolated, medieval communities lived.

 

And I can get away with gif-age because I've paid Lowtax about 15 dollars.

If socialism (and I don't mean that national socialist crap) were on here, there would be no contest. Sometimes I think the successful socialist model you see in parts of Canada could actually be preferable to Capitalism.

However, since it's not, I chose Communism. I guess there's always the chance that I could turn out to be one of the people making a living off of abusing such a turd-bucket system.

 

Just like some of our glorious MPs here in the UK, I hope you'd abuse your expenses big style

 

I don't really get the point of this poll : if communism wins over the other 2 choices, would that mean that for the majority of us it is less bad than the other political systems. Communism, together with nazism, was/is (still unfortunately in some countries) the most cruel type of government. Here is the legacy of communism : goulags (= concentration camps), permanent monitoring of its citizens (in Poland, my dad was jailed for his different political views at the time of the Martial Law in the early 80's, and it's because this sh*tty communism that my parents left Poland when I was 2  y.o.) and there was a secret police (Urzad Bezpieczenstwa) that kept shutting up any opposition (a friend of my dad's was killed by them, the bishop Popieluszko was tortured and slaughtered) and a sad episode in polish history is the bloody repression of the workers who claimed better living conditions in Poznan in 1956 cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozna%C5%84_1956_protests - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozna%C5%84_1956_protests , massive deportations of populations, massive massacre of polish army officers in Katyn - Poland, genocides in Ukraine by starvation of the population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor  and Cambodia (1,5 billion killed).

 

One should be really living in a bubble to ignore all these atrocities and all the disasters caused by communist dictatorships.

I don't really see why dictatorship is separated from communism, both work often hand in hand (Cuba, Russia, Romania at the time of Ceaucescu, North Corea, Cambodia).

 

Someone who claims communism would be a good alternative to capitalism should go and live in the current Communist countries : Cuba, North Corea or devise a time machine and wander through Russia, Poland, Cambodia, Romania... 

 

I don't know why "anarchy" is featured here as we don't have a single country to base an analysis for comparison with capitalism-lead countries.

 

Another thing that is beyond me, is how Mr Ernesto Gueverra is worshipped. This guy was an assassin and wanted to spread the communism virus in latine America. I know that communist ideas are very popular among youngsters, especially those living in comfortable democracies, but praise someone who has blood on his hands is shocking (he is responsible for the execution of a hundred of police and army officers of the Batista regimen, guilty for "war crimes" (!) and created "working and rehabilitation" camps. 

 

 

communism =  

 

This was truly an awful incident that came up as part of my Degree course. A lecturer suggested a couple of us spoke to a Polish friend whose grandfather was a victim of the Katyn forest incident and what he told us was truly harrowing and this forum is no place to discuss the detail.

 

To repeat what I posted earlier in the thread, voting for any one of the three abominations on offer here would be like a Turkey voting for Christmas.

 

At least I only studied this at University without having to live through these sort of horrors personally, so I count myself very lucky.

 

I have a good Czech friend who speaks in a very similar vein to you - only the circumstances were different.

Yes, and don't forget the famous 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviet troops and tanks, occupation that is the result of failed negotiation to keep a strong stalinist regimen in this country. In fact, Dubcek wanted to give another turn to his county's communism, a more human face by injecting some liberalism in the harsh socialism. In Poland, a philosoph from my birth city (Przemysl), Ryszard Siwiec, went to Warsaw and self-immolated himself as a sign of protest towards the decision of the Russians. 60 were killed during this dark episode of czechoslovakian history.

 

Not all people in the Western World my friend - well, not me, anyway