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4 stars 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4

Roger Waters' second solo studio album, based on a fictitious US radio station, where Roger does for American radio what Gerald Ratner did for jewellery sales. Tongue

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roger waters should retire
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Originally posted by ledzepfan63 ledzepfan63 wrote:

roger waters should retire

Well, Roger certainly deserves a comfortably numb retirement after such a long and distinguished career stretching back over half a century, when Pigs (on the wing) might fly before ever seeing him perform with Pink Floyd again. Welcome to the Roger Waters appreciation club.  Wink


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4 stars 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4

The second single from Roger Waters' second album, where Roger extols the virtues of Hollywood's Sunset Strip, although he'd rather be in Wales, apparently. Tongue



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by ledzepfan63 ledzepfan63 wrote:

roger waters should retire

Well, Roger certainly deserves a comfortably numb retirement after such a long and distinguished career stretching back over half a century, when Pigs (on the wing) might fly before ever seeing him perform with Pink Floyd again. Welcome to the Roger Waters appreciation club.  Wink


Yeah, pigs will fly with Jewish symbols on it next to Communist symbols and Dollar Signs. Oh wait that was last week.

This week he flew a pig with a Jewish star on it in Berlin while he was dressed as a f**king Nazi with a picture of Anne Frank juxtaposed with a dead journalist who he believes the IDF killed, surrounded by banners in the style of the Third Reich. In BERLIN. Go to Hell, Waters! You'll find lots of Nazis, with whom to fit in there.

See, pigs have flown and he still hasn't performed with Pink Floyd. But he's still a motherf**ker.

A motherf**ker under criminal investigation by German authorities that is...

A geriatric, senile Varg Vikernes it seems.


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^ You sound as intolerant and as indecent as RW... Ermm

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4 stars 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4

Roger Waters' second album ended with a simulated nuclear attack, but his record company told him it was far too bleak and depressing and needed a more upbeat ending. No kidding!!! So Roger came up with "The Tide is Turning" instead - the third single from the album. Okay, so it's not exactly the most uplifting of songs, but it's about as upbeat as you're going to get in Roger's gloomy view of the world. Tongue



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ You sound as intolerant and as indecent as RW... Ermm


What, so I'm supposed to tolerate his antisemitism and intolerance towards me and my people?

If he's going to proudly boycott me, then I'm not ashamed to boycott him. That's how these things work!

Call me as intolerant as you want (as justified as I may be in this case); in any case, nevertheless, I am not under criminal investigation for inciting hatred. Roger Waters is, however. Serves the b*****d right.


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4 stars 1992: Roger Waters - Amused to Death - http://https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ka1U3tes8Atdy1A_8oxGbPw7qVyg2qhIQ

Roger is not amused! Roger Waters' third album explores more doom and gloom themes, ranging from World War One, the Gulf War and the ever-present threat of nuclear armageddon. It's a typical Roger Waters album then, although there's something strangely endearing about Roger's curmudgeonly outlook on life. After all, who else but Roger Waters could make a Radiohead album sound cheerful by comparison. Tongue



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1992: Roger Waters - Amused to Death - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDLMqo_y4kLs_rppAZeLxML

Roger is not amused! Roger Waters' third album explores more doom and gloom themes, ranging from World War One, the Gulf War and the ever-present threat of nuclear armageddon. It's a typical Roger Waters album then, although there's something strangely endearing about Roger's curmudgeonly outlook on life. After all, who else but Roger Waters could make a Radiohead album sound cheerful by comparison. Tongue


I'm amused at my second favorite Waters album.  Roger certainly composes deep thoughts, imports important issues, tissues occasionally wiping see water out of the corners of my watering eyes.  Eye shadow disaster! Mascara massacre. Ouch


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^ At least men never have to worry about eye shadow disaster, or mascara massacre - apart from in the New Romantic eighties era. Tongue


Steve Strange - strange by name, strange by his androgynous visage. Tongue


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RW should toddle off to that retirement home for incurable tyrants and kings sooner rather than later. Shame, a genius mind behind DSOTM just loses the plot. Brain Damage? Art imitating life or is it vice versaEmbarrassed
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4 stars 1992: Roger Waters - Amused to Death - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ka1U3tes8Atdy1A_8oxGbPw7qVyg2qhIQ

Cheer up, Roger, it may never happen. Tongue

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He seems to have completely lost it. Go live in Russia if you love Pukin!
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The only good thing about the pros and cons album is the cover. Wink I won't go so far as to say I hate it. I just think about 80 percent of it is really boring. I just can't get into it. It's also the only RW solo album I have. 
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"I pay attention to the music...not the lyrics."  How many times have I heard progheads say that one in reviews, posts, and in conversation?  Well, I pay attention.  I love the English language. I've read oodles of Joyce, Shakespeare, Fielding, Conrad, ect...    

Best progressive rock lyrist ever? In my opinion, it's a toss up between Waters and Ian Anderson.  It's hilarious how many folks misunderstand Water's words.   When Water's writes "Welcome to the machine", he's not advocating for Fascism.  He's using the literary devise of sarcasm to mock Fascism and show his contempt for all things totalitarian.  

Back in the day, most folks got it.  They'd seen the movie The Wall.  Two score and four years later they don't get it. Wink




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I thought welcome to the machine was about the business of music and its venal capitalists
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I thought welcome to the machine was about the business of music and its venal capitalists

Yes, that's part of it.  The Machine is any Powerful Human Agency that takes advantage of those who don't have access to power.  When Waters wrote "Welcome to the Machine" his daily experience was with the music industry. So he wrote what he knew.  Yet, Waters saw Totalitarian Power existed in many places outside the music industry. Wink   

Waters channeled Orwell's Animal Farm to mock totalitarianism.  Mocking totalitarians is a major theme running through the majority of Roger Waters' lyrical compositions.  Sure, Orwell wrote about farm animals.  Yet, Animal Farm was about much more than animals reorganizing a farm.  Just so, when Waters references Dogs, Sheep, and Pigs...he actually meant humans.  Imagine that?Tongue




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