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Joined: January 30 2009
Location: Turkey
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Posted: January 31 2009 at 07:47
i think van der graaf generator was the best band that you could feel the progressive sounds when you listen them ... i love refugees and the uncover man
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Joined: November 10 2009
Location: Tulsa, OK, U.S.
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Points: 5148
Posted: July 05 2010 at 21:50
TGM: Orb wrote:
Best. Band. Ever.
Discuss.
You are correct sir. Peter Hammill is the second coming of christ. We should start a cult around him because of his god-like genius. I want to have his children.
Anyways, I'm glad that this thread has started so I can gush about VDGG like everyone else here.
Joined: January 16 2010
Location: Thunder Bay CAN
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Points: 4395
Posted: July 05 2010 at 22:32
AlexUC wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
Best. Band. Ever.
Discuss.
Oh, how deluded you are.
Then which is? Rush? Dream Theater? I don't think so...
The second one.
And while not the best band ever, they are up there. Hammill is... inhuman to say the least. He's an amazingly emotional singer and one of the greatest songwriters there are.
Joined: August 15 2005
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Posted: July 10 2010 at 23:36
I only got into Van Der Graaf a few months ago, but they quickly became my favorite band ever (replacing former favorite band Ween, who had been my favorite band for like 7 years).
One day I just finally "got it" and realized what made them so brilliant and so ahead of their time (or even this time, for that matter). I've never really heard anyone handle composition in the rock band format quite like they do, and without a full-time guitarist or bassist to boot.
Not to mention the fact that they just do it regardless of the circumstances. When their bassist left they didn't get a new one, they just got some bass pedals. They lost their twin-saxaphonist David Jackson? No problem. they're a trio now. Pete and Hugh and Guy just fill in Jackson's part when they're needed.
And yeah, Guy Evans, one of the most underrated prog drummers ever. What he does with the instrument just blows my mind. There are moments where I swear he's carrying the whole song by himself and it's just incredible.
So yeah, in conclusion, I'm glad this thread exists, because if there's any band that needs more appreciation it's The Flower Kings. And Van Der Graaf Generator.
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Points: 14258
Posted: July 11 2010 at 00:59
Definitely VDGG are in my top 5 greatest artists tho admittedly they are not easy to get into - you are either in or you are out - my wife can't stand them. Personally I think Pawn Hearts is one of the greatest albums in existence.
Joined: March 05 2010
Location: Knowhere, USA
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Posted: July 11 2010 at 16:27
I got into Van der Graaf Generator VERY recently, so I'm not ready to call them the "Best. Band. Ever." However, I will say that Pawn Hearts and H to He are now some of my favorite albums ever.
"I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...."
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Posted: May 28 2011 at 09:04
I also made some clips to the new VDGG 'A Grounding in Numbers' - see what you think and if you have not heard it yet here's some of the better tracks/
Joined: November 29 2009
Location: Australia
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Points: 557
Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:33
Sorry for the bump, but this seemed to be one of the few vaguely recent VdGG general threads still open.
For those who have heard some of the band's remasters, particularly Godbluff & Still Life, does anyone else find the vocals very quiet? In general the sound of the albums is much improved, but I think it's something to do with what tends to broadly happen, EQ-wise, on remasters- boosting lows & boosting highs, and the vocals get a bit lost between. Though then again the other mid-range instruments sound fine.
It just bothers me, given how crucial Hammill is here, for him to feel buried at times.
Joined: November 29 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: December 19 2013 at 03:38
Alright, cheers. I always find when I start comparing different masters of albums, I eventually just end up hearing every tiniest thing as wrong, so I should probably just accept it. But I'm very sure it's very significantly quieter in the full band sections.
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