No Offense, But Why...

I'm probably one of the biggest hip-hop fans around this part. I have found just as many bands to like as I have in prog, then again I usually only like very small proportions of genres. I personally don't consider myself very open minded. Some interesting bands: A Tribe Called Quest, Subtle, fbcfabric & reindeer, Cunninlynguist, DJ Screw, etcetera. 

i don't care for the mainstream modern stuff but i can listen to some older stuff like NWA and Public Enemy. I also don't really like a lot of today's rock bands that mix their rock with hip hop but faith no more is one of my favourite bands and they are  one of the first to do that.
but for mainstream stuff, i've been force fed that for years and i can't stand it, but i can listen to the rap artists that actually have something to say, unlike soulja boy and his types.

MHDTV wrote: ...Are all you progheads so close-minded about Hip Hop? Many of you complain about how close-minded your friends are, yet look at yourselves.

hip-hop.... pfff... wanna see close-minded.. mention prog-pop.  Watch the eyes of the close-minded roll back into their heads and foam protrude from their mouths. 

MHDTV wrote: E-Dub wrote: MHDTV wrote: ...Are all you progheads so close-minded about Hip Hop? Many of you complain about how close-minded your friends are, yet look at yourselves. Here are some bands to try: Aesop Rock Madvillain Public Enemy Notorious B.I.G. EL-P Atmosphere KRS-One Being close minded has nothing to do with it. It's all personal tastes. I'm sure I've got discs in my collection that you wouldn't like. Does that make YOU close minded? E I already explained this. I'm not going to do it again. Once again, I encourage people to try non-mainstream Hip-Hop like Aesop Rock, KRS-One, or Jazz-Hop and Trip-Hop like DJ Shadow.

I didn't ask you to explain a stinkin' thing. Got it? You asked, I answered. You brought up 'close minded', not me.
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Edited by E-Dub - February 18 2008 at 22:28

Uh, why? Just because you don't like it, and haven't bothered to find anything good? I fail to see how producers like Blockhead, who done everything from classical sampling, to pure jazz backgrounds, is regressive in the least. Even Timbaland, while overtly commercial, manages to sneak in some productions you can tell he made for himself and himself alone.

How the hell is the idea of rap contradictory to prog? There isn't even an 'idea' of rap. It's just music, it can be progressive, or it ca be stale and regressive.

Most prog bands aren't exactly progressive these days, so...

The most progressive hip hop artists I have heard is the Divine Styler.  Today's hip hop is not as experimental compared to the late 80's, early 90's hip hop.  I still like the Last Poets and the Roots.  If I do listen to rap today the group will have a live band in the background.  I do not want to listen to some canned b*****dized versions of "Pass the Peas," "Flashlight"  and other bits and pieces of others music only to add "their flavor."  Mostly that "flavor" is a bunch of mindless dribble.  Rap artist are lyricists not as they claim to be...musicians.  Prog musicians write the music and play the instruments on their albums.  Todays rap is just overproduced pablum just like the pop r&b.  I do like the version of P.E's "She Watch Channel Zero" by the band Follow for Now.  I do own about 300 rap albums that range from the Last Poets to the first Flavor Unit record.  

everyone wrote: The most progressive hip hop artists I have heard is the Divine Styler.

What kind of stuff do they do? Sounds like a Trip Hop band.