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thrang theng
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:40 |
I'm sure you are OFUR, you have his style!!!!, Unless the OFUR alter-ego cames into this thread.
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DT15
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:42 |
No, this is my first time posting on this site actually. I was just making a point about not assuming things
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thrang theng
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:43 |
What do you think about Captain Beefhearth, Zappa's humor and 200motels?
Just to have your opinion... nothing related to anything else...
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TheProgtologist
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Joined: May 23 2005
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:44 |
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think about Captain Beefhearth, Zappa's humor and 200motels?
Just to have your opinion... nothing related to anything else...
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How he answers to that will determine if he is Ofur or not
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Doesburger
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Joined: September 14 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 50
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:46 |
This reminds me of something I wanted to ask : Is there such a thing as an ignore button on this forum? Thanks.
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Citanul
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Joined: June 14 2005
Location: South Africa
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:47 |
DT15 wrote:
chopper wrote:
Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and
some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging
something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.
I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not to my taste.
"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that bad.
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That is EXACTLY my point. Please read my first post again. To
explain again, I'm not slogging. I am critically and musically
analysing and basing my judgement on that.
Oh and as a side note, I don't think i ever said I didn't like it. I
might actually enjoy Yes. All I have said so far is that I don't enjoy
it from a MUSICAL perpective. |
Critically and musically analysing? With comments like "this
music is just plain boring", "crappy old school prog rock"?
And you may not have said explicitly that you didn't like it, but
saying "If i want to fall asleep or have a good laugh, I'll listen to
Yes" pretty much says that you don't like it.
If you wanted people not to take your opinions seriously, you went about it the right way.
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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NutterAlert
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Joined: June 07 2005
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:49 |
I think DT15 is probably not going to win Noobie of the year at the annual ProgAchives award dinner this year.
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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DT15
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:50 |
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think about Captain Beefhearth, Zappa's humor and 200motels?
Just to have your opinion... nothing related to anything else...
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I actually don't like expressing a formal opinion without giving proper critical analysis. Nevertheless, I will answer you in short:
I don't enjoy Captain Beefhearth's music, I respect Frank Zappa and what he has contributed to experimental,jazz-rock, fusion, etc. Are you referring to the 86 album or just generally? I don't have an opinion either way.
Same goes for the 1970 album. Or was it 71?
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DT15
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:52 |
Citanul wrote:
DT15 wrote:
chopper wrote:
Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.
I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not to my taste.
"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that bad.
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That is EXACTLY my point. Please read my first post again. To explain again, I'm not slogging. I am critically and musically analysing and basing my judgement on that.
Oh and as a side note, I don't think i ever said I didn't like it. I might actually enjoy Yes. All I have said so far is that I don't enjoy it from a MUSICAL perpective.
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Critically and musically analysing? With comments like "this music is just plain boring", "crappy old school prog rock"?
And you may not have said explicitly that you didn't like it, but saying "If i want to fall asleep or have a good laugh, I'll listen to Yes" pretty much says that you don't like it.
If you wanted people not to take your opinions seriously, you went about it the right way.
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Ok i swear this is the VERY LAST time I am typing this... please read all my posts in this thread, and remember not to take everything you read seriously.
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thrang theng
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Joined: September 09 2005
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Points: 74
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 09:53 |
You should admit dear DT that there are some contraditions in your statement along the forum, and this is somehow confusing all of us about your real intentions...
I'm sure that all of us wish that the misunderstanding is over.
"A reliable sign of an impoverished nature is the seeking of fault in others" RF
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chopper
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Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:00 |
DT15 wrote:
chopper wrote:
Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.
I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not to my taste.
"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that bad.
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That is EXACTLY my point. Please read my first post again. To explain again, I'm not slogging. I am critically and musically analysing and basing my judgement on that.
Oh and as a side note, I don't think i ever said I didn't like it. I might actually enjoy Yes. All I have said so far is that I don't enjoy it from a MUSICAL perpective.
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I don't see any critical/musical analysing in your first thread. OK, you didn't exactly say you didn't like it but you did say it's "just plain boring" "crappy old school prog rock".
Admit it, you're Ofur in disguise!
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DT15
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Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:05 |
chopper wrote:
DT15 wrote:
chopper wrote:
Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.
I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not to my taste.
"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that bad.
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That is EXACTLY my point. Please read my first post again. To explain again, I'm not slogging. I am critically and musically analysing and basing my judgement on that.
Oh and as a side note, I don't think i ever said I didn't like it. I might actually enjoy Yes. All I have said so far is that I don't enjoy it from a MUSICAL perpective.
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I don't see any critical/musical analysing in your first thread. OK, you didn't exactly say you didn't like it but you did say it's "just plain boring" "crappy old school prog rock".
Admit it, you're Ofur in disguise!
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Sorry for my bad english and confusing you. I meant I am GOING to musically analyse the album. In fact I have just begun writing...
But if you read all my posts you would have already understood
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Under
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:05 |
Great a hidden message after all. In fact, not a hidden message, but a secret double User, trying to clear his past and create a new indentity as a prog intellectual.
If you see a newbie with the name "Below", stating he knows prog as well as white bread, do not think it is me.
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NutterAlert
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:13 |
DT15 Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition..
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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OldFatherThames
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Joined: April 02 2005
Location: Canada
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Points: 317
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:18 |
Wow ! People like you are very funny who come here and think having the absolute verity and bash other's opinion just because your a musician, even if MANY MANY people here are musician, and often with more experience than you. You'r not a god of music, you're just a bachelor of music !
So you came here thinking you have a revelation, a vision ! LOOK LOOK, LISTEN TO ME, I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTNANT TO SAY !! I had a vision yesterday ! You're all fools, old prog is crap and boring! I will prove you with my REAL reviews, because I'm a REAL musician and you're all not. If you still don't understand my point, it's because you're not as skill as I in a musical point of view.
Come on ! I don't care what music you like, and I don't even care about your musical analysis. I found genesis, and jethro tull brillant and Dream Theater and all prog-metal absolutely boring, so what ? It's my taste and you cannot change it. Don't think your point will be see as THE point of view. Even after reading your magnificient reviews, people will not say: Yes, he is right, Genesis is really s**t.
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Citanul
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Joined: June 14 2005
Location: South Africa
Status: Offline
Points: 430
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:20 |
NutterAlert wrote:
DT15 Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition..
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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John Gargo
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Joined: January 26 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:22 |
DT15 wrote:
I thought it was obvious I was overreating to gain a response. |
Sort of like a small child who keeps yelling until his parents finally give in out of embaressment and buy him that toy he so desperately needs (but which will find its way to the back of the closet within 24 hours).
Grow up.
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Bob Greece
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Greece
Status: Offline
Points: 1823
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 10:28 |
Citanul wrote:
NutterAlert wrote:
DT15 Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.. |
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 31
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:09 |
OldFatherThames wrote:
Come on ! I don't care what music you like, and I don't even care about your musical analysis. I found genesis, and jethro tull brillant and Dream Theater and all prog-metal absolutely boring, so what ? It's my taste and you cannot change it. Don't think your point will be see as THE point of view. Even after reading your magnificient reviews, people will not say: Yes, he is right, Genesis is really s**t.
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Do you think I'm not aware of this? As i stated before, I am merely giving a musical analysic on close to the edge because i was asked to on this thread. i couldn't care less if you just brush it off. But then again, not everyone is you.
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FragileDT
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Joined: June 20 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:25 |
DT15 wrote:
chopper wrote:
Some people like Yes, some don't. Some people like prog-metal and
some don't. It's not a problem, but there's no need to go sl*gging
something off as "crappy" just because you don't like it.
I don't like prog-metal but I don't sl*g it off. There's nothing wrong
with it, it's just not to my taste.
"Close to the edge" is number one in the PA chart, so it can't be that
bad.
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That is EXACTLY my point. Please read my first post again. To explain
again, I'm not slogging. I am critically and musically analysing and basing
my judgement on that.
Oh and as a side note, I don't think i ever said I didn't like it. I might
actually enjoy Yes. All I have said so far is that I don't enjoy it from a
MUSICAL perpective. |
What have you critically analyzed? Nothing at all.
Where is your deep analysis on why Yes and Genesis are not as good as
Dream Theater. I would love to hear it and I'm sure everyone else would
too since you keep saying your "Almighty musical analysis" is so worthy.
Edited by FragileDT
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