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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2025 at 16:53
I just re-read some of his reviews and they have some merit apart from that they are all negative.  I chuckle at and agree with some of his observations, even on those albums I rate much better.  Like for instance, I always thought "Nude" was mostly light background music but still gave it 3 stars because of a handful of great tracks.  I don't like Supertramp but agree that Crisis doesn't even meet their standards.  To tell the truth, I'd rather read Papa pork than another fanboy review o (take your pick)..Much more entertaining, more concise, and at least as insightful.  But yeah I get it doesn't make the site look great unless it's read as parody, which I believe it is.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2025 at 18:15
To be fair, while PapaPork's reviews are negative and cynical, they're not worse than Sean Trane's negative reviews. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

At least PapaPork has a style. A lot of the recent overwhelmingly positive reviews of (mostly contemporary) albums on PA are stylistically very bland imo. (example)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2025 at 18:29
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

To be fair, while PapaPork's reviews are negative and cynical, they're not worse than Sean Trane's negative reviews. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


This is uncalled for... Sean has many friends here for quite a long time. Huge list of ratings and reviews. 

Why do you do sh*t like this???
Ouch


Edited by Valdez - February 03 2025 at 18:36
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2025 at 20:14
That raises a good point actually.  Most of us improve in our reviewing over time.  I'm embarrassed by some of my early reviews.  Papa Pork could be finding his style.  Or this could be it.  And I've read much worse.  At least he is somewhat unique.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2025 at 03:47
Quote Huge list of ratings and reviews.

Quality ≠ quantity
https://www.progarchives.com/review.asp?id=2651
https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=3643
Quote Why do you do sh*t like this???
Ouch
Just to clarify. I'm only comparing Trane's brief negative reviews to PapaPork's writings.

Keneth had a point. I'll add that if you review an album that you don't like, your wording might potentially end up as less eloquent and elaborate, just by the nature of your opinion. At the end of the day, we as people, get angry when we don't like something. Right? Negative emotions are bound to be present in negative reviews, rather than the positive ones.

I also have suspicions that PapaPork is trying to copy the The Angry Video Game Nerd formula but for prog albums. You know AVGN? AVGN is a character who reviews vintage/classic video games he doesn't like and gets angry at them.

Edited by Hrychu - February 04 2025 at 04:04
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I don’t get angry if I don’t like music -  I just ignore it. If I did there’d be hundreds of negative prog metal reviews by me on here by now……

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2025 at 07:40
I don't get angry if I don't like an album. I actually rarely listen-through to albums that don't appeal as I usually stream before I buy. I watch through films and TV shows I don't like sometimes and not liking it does not make me angry either. Art can be provocative but would rarely anger me. It can annoy me. I very rarely get angry, period. I'm much more likely to get sad *insert image of sad kitty to demonstrate*. I guess if I felt I was pressured to listen to an album that I really dislike then I might be upset/mad at the one who pressured me -- annoyed. And sure some music really annoys me. And I guess for some if they come in with too high or the wrong expectations they might get quite upset. If they feel let down somehow, but that's not the artists fault really unless the albums was made-to-order, so get upset with yourself. Due to site work I used to listen to quite a lot of music that did not appeal to me, but I could evaluate it without getting upset -- my purpose of listening was not for enjoyment and whether I enjoyed it was irrelevant to if it fit PA. In 2004/2005 I did buy a number of CDs that I regretted having purchased (one by Spock's Beard, another by Transatlantic, The Flower Kings, Porcupine Tree and late Gentle Giant, but that was my fault).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2025 at 09:14
While I don't normally feel angry when writing a review of something I don't like, I agree that most of Papa Pork's reviews do convey anger, but that might be part of his act
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2025 at 10:01
I think we should distinguish between REVIEWS and RANTS. Many are the latter and really are pointless other than to cast more power for a rating. If anyone is hung up on ratings to that degree they really need to get a life!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2025 at 10:02
I'm convinced that it's an act. One might well call it trolling. While I often may err on the side of being too tolerant/ accepting (and other times not enough), I totally get why others strongly believe that they should be gone, and why if it is indeed trolling, which I think it is, it goes against site policy. I so wish to make some politically charged comments right now....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duddick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2025 at 01:43
https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=3150993

This appears to be a review of the album Ghost Stories, not The Symbol Remains. I’ve PM’d the reviewer but no response 
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