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Sir Realist 
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 Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:46 |
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The late '60s and early '70s seem like such a fertile period because prog
was a new and inspiring development. Lots of new directions were
launched. There was some good music made in the '80s, mostly under
the radar, but obviously not a lot of new directions until the emergence of
prog industrial, heavy metal and shred toward the end. I may be
underinformed, but the only really standout innovation I can think of from
the early '80s is the "Discipline"-era King Crimson, but even that has clear
sources in "Red."
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:47 |
 flowerchild wrote:
...of course it was...isn't that everybodys opinion....!!!(?).....
...well, perhaps the 90's...and the 00's so far i awefull......I would rate:
- 70's
- 60's
- 80's
- 90's
- 00's
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I fully agree with this top 5, 100%.
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dalt99
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 15:57 |
My list would look like this:
1) 70's (Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, blah blah blah  )
2) 60's (King Crimson, Moody Blues, Beatles, Soft Machine, VDGG, Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Egg, Procol Harum, Colosseum, Renaissance all started in this decade)
3) 90's (Anglagard, Anekdoten, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, Shadow Gallery, Opeth, Duty Free Area, Echolyn, White Willow, Finisterre, Thinking Plague, Sinkadus, After Crying, Liquid Tension Experiment, Ayreon, Porcupine Tree, Citizen Cain, Radiohead, Par Lindh Project, Ars Nova, Tool)
4) 80's (Marillion, Ozric Tentacles, Pallas, IQ, Univers Zero, Saga, Asia, Rush, Ain Soph, Kenso, Twelfth Night, Queensryche, Pendragon, However, Isildurs Bane, Bi Kyo Ran, Bacamarte, Art Zoyd, Eskaton, Djam Karet)
5) 00's (Transatlantic, The Tangent, The Mars Volta, Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, Hamadryad, Bigelf, Glass Hammer, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Avant Garden, The Muffins, Little Atlas, Hidria Spacefolk, Discus, Mostly Autumn, Salva, Galleon, Grand Stand)
I think that prog music is still going strong and will keep producing great music though it will never get back to the heyday of the 70's.
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 16:01 |
Of course the 70s were the best time, or at least in my opinion.
In the 80's all the good bands started going downhill. Or at least a few of them, after Gabriel left Genesis really wasn't superb, and Yes and King Crimson's music didn't really turn sour, it just sort of declined a little. Then there's Rush who just sort of lost creativity.
In the 90's bands like Pendragon and Twelfth Night started making neo-prog, and I guess there's nothing wrong with that musically, it's just that it's not an original concept. I don't want neo prog fans to get mad though.
And now in the new millenium Pain Of Salvation and The Mars Volta are two truly original bands. If more like them come out, prog will most likely be restored to a creative status.
I also like The Flower Kings, even though a lot of prog fans call them neo prog as well, but I think they progress instead of taking ideas from earlier bands.
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lpd42
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:17 |
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Oh come on, there were some GREAT 80's prog albums. GTR? Asia? Jethro
Tull's "Crest of the Knave?" (chuckles) oops, those were the bad ones...
The dreaming by kate bush, any peter gabriel solo release... King
crimson's 80's output, while not my favorite fripp material, WAS pretty
damn good. Hell, Even the fripp-produced daryll hall album Sacred Songs
is a standout in very late 70's early 80's prog.
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Blarg! My cheese has bones!
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KeyserSoze
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 17:21 |
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Ozric Tentacles, Peter Gabriel... Well, I like 90's much more but there actually were bands and music that is worth.
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mirco
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:16 |
oliverstoned wrote:
One of the very few 80's good jazzrock/prog album:
Steve Tibbetts/Yr (1980)
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Isn't 1980 technically the last year of the 70 decade?
The 80's were the worst years for all kind of music, form prog to jazz to salsa. The producers era, which thoughts that with a sintethizer and a beatiful boy or girl singing they could achieve big hits...
Edited by mirco
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:58 |
greenback wrote:
the first 4 Fixx's albums
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Nice to see someone here besides me who likes the Fixx.
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 21:41 |
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Fates Warning anyone?
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ShaggyMcShagg7
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 21:44 |
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Queensryche.
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 21:47 |
I don't care what period sucks ass for Prog, but I'd say 79-83 sucked the most ass for Prog.
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DarioIndjic
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 21:50 |
Compared to 70s prog,80s were empty years,but there was excellent ,if not some truly masterpieces of prog rock.English,Italian,German,Scandinavian or US scene was mostly dead,but in some countries,prog scene was flourishing(for example Japan).
Here are some 80s masterpieces:
Marillion - Script For A Jester's Tear
Marillion - Fugazi
Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak
Bacamarte - Depois Do Fim
Gerard - Gerard
Gerard - Empty Lie,Empty Dream
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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strawberry
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 23:09 |
Rousseau "Flowers in Asphalt" 1980 "Retreat" 1981" "square the Circle" 1988
OH MY these are some Gems from a German band. Very Camelesque but not cloning in the least.
Minimum Vitals first two on one. Envol Triangles/ Les Saisons Marines 1985 /1987
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taste is but a matter of oppinion.
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nousommedusolei
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 00:39 |
Yes, I'd agree the 80s were the worst time for prog, but not everything released in the 80s was awful.
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe~ 1989 , the only "Yes" album of that decade that didn't make me rip my hair out. I actually enjoyed it.
Crest of Knave~ Jethro Tull, 1987, somewhat made a return to the 'old' Jethro Tull sound (despite the fact that Ian's voice had changed quite a bit).
King Crimson's "Discipline" (1981) is also a good listen.
For the most part, the 80s were pretty bad, but not everything that came out of the 80s.
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I don't believe in demons
I don't believe in devils
I only believe in you
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Pylo
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 03:34 |
Moogtron III wrote:
I think the 70's were the best, then the eighties with Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, Twelfth Night, Pallas etc., then the nineties and then the naughties: a slow decline. There's more prog than ever before, but the quality is getting less and less with each decennium.
Sounds pretty negative, but there are still a lot of gems to discover. Flowers in the asphalt...
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Well said ! 
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Pylo
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VLADO
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 03:46 |
I think 80s were great with
1. the solo efforts of PG, PH, kate bush, robert plant...
2. yes, genesis
3. the rush best albums
4. an appearing of new things like marillion
5. return of deep purple, pink floyd
6. an absolute collection of dezo ursiny
7. also with the pop stuffs like talk talk (who went onto deep waters afterwards), dire straits, police, sting, ...
frankly, i love the 80s the most
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...and in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make...
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sigod
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:56 |
Blacksword wrote:
Looks like it was a pretty good decade to me.. |
Agreed, I was there and had fantastic time.
Which is more than can be said for the fashion...
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:16 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:20 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Manunkind
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:24 |
VLADO wrote:
I think 80s were great with
1. the solo efforts of PG, PH, kate bush, robert plant...
2. yes, genesis
3. the rush best albums
4. an appearing of new things like marillion
5. return of deep purple, pink floyd
6. an absolute collection of dezo ursiny
7. also with the pop stuffs like talk talk (who went onto deep waters afterwards), dire straits, police, sting, ...
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Yep, and King Crimson resurfaced, putting out one magnificent album (Discipline) and two decent ones (Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair).
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The 80s..the worst era for prog.
