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JJLehto
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Posted: September 19 2012 at 23:36 |
I personally think he was quite solid in 08 and 09. Before that no doubt he was inconsistent. 2010 was admittedly a frustrating year. I put a good bit on the young/new offense being out of sync and Eli's general conversion from game manager to blitzkrieger but yeah that was a painful one. Enough of this before we get accused of more Giants fap fest...I hope the Rams can top Chicago, I just hate Jay Cutler I make no qualms about it. Houston/Denver should be good and Ravens/Eagles as well.
Edited by JJLehto - September 19 2012 at 23:36
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manofmystery
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Posted: September 20 2012 at 12:33 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I think it's dwindling, but it's still possible. In the past decade the Ravens, the Bucs, the Steelers twice won with good but not great qbs. I would probably argue that I need to see more from Eli before I call him great. So you would have in the past ten years 6 superbowl wins without great quarterbacks. That would be 50%. |
You really comparing Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson to Ben Roethlisberger? This might end any credibility you have on the subject of football, as far as I'm concerned.
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manofmystery
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Posted: September 20 2012 at 12:37 |
By the way, the way their offenses function, Roethlisberger is more important to his team's success than "great" QB Brady. *cough* Matt Cassel *cough*
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Epignosis
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Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:08 |
This is the worst game I've ever seen the Panthers play.
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Epignosis
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Posted: September 20 2012 at 22:12 |
Now it's the worst game I've ever seen.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 20 2012 at 23:07 |
Wow, the rare (very rare) easy win for the Giants. I of course know what this means...we will struggle terribly and probably lose to the Browns, but hey I'll savor this for now.
Glad to see the Giants were finally bringing some pressure, and a run game!!! 100 rush yards and 2TDs. I never thought I'd see it again. After years of being "that big guy" who never made the field Ramses Barden had a great game. Eli finally had a game where he wasn't under pressure every other snap and he was near perfection. So efficient.
And of course they remain a classy organization, choosing not to run up the score though they easily could have.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 21 2012 at 02:23 |
Great win by the gmen! Can't remember such a dominating victory is awhile. Hopefully this run game can continue. As much as I trust in Eli to put the team on his back I wouldn't mind a little more balance. At least the possiblity of balance.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 12:16 |
Update: Mark Sanchez is terrible.
2.01 games into his career, this Tannehill already looks better than Mark's 3 years in the NFL
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 13:24 |
Yeah, the Sanchise looks pitiful. But I'm not terribly surprised. As long as they don't start mentioning calls to "Release the Tebow!!!" monster though I think I can avoid breaking something in anger.
I'm glad to see our offense is finally clicking, especially with all the o-line issues we've had to deal with. Granted, this is against the Redskins, and they have a beat-up secondary right now so maybe it's not that impressive. I got worried when Dalton threw that screen pass in their own endzone that gave the Redskins their first TD (why the hell are they throwing screens in their own endzone anyway?) and the fake field goal wasn't really necessary, but otherwise they seem to be handling themselves fairly well so far.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 13:53 |
Rooting for Minnesota all the way.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 14:21 |
And once again, the Bengals display their outstanding ability to allow the other team to fight their way back into the game. Not to mention I think that's the first time Benjarvis Green-Ellis has ever fumbled in his career. I'm just glad not a lot resulted from that fumble other than worse field position though.
Edited by horsewithteeth11 - September 23 2012 at 14:22
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 15:37 |
I later tuned into the game, one play: Tebow running around like a fool and getting sacked, next play: Sanchez throws a pick. THAT sums up the Jets in 2 plays lol
Well, that's why the NFL is great. IDK how Minnesota beat San Fran?? Shame the Cowboys won, but at least the Skins lost and hoping the Cards will beat the Eagles.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 15:51 |
I'm honestly not sure how we came away with that win, considering our secondary realized that they're about as injured and terrible as the Redskins' secondary too. It was like they shut it down in the 4th quarter. Our offensive played great and Dalton and Green both had monster games. I just hope they can continue putting up 30-something every game because they might need it.
I expect to hear a lot of talk about the officiating at the end of the game though. The Skins went for an onside kick after they got back within 7 late in the 4th. The ball only went 9 yards before one of their players touched it, and the officials didn't run off 10 seconds at first, even with Marvin screaming his head off from the sideline about it. They finally did, but I'm pretty sure it was more like 7 or 8 seconds that got run off rather than 10. And then right before the last play, they called a false start on the Skins, then went back into a huddle, then came back out and called false start AND a personal foul (never named the player with the personal foul though). At that point, both benches had come onto the field like the game was about over (it was 3rd and 45 and about 60-70 yards away from the end zone, so it's not like the Skins had a great chance). But the entire scene was so chaotic that all the little things added up for one giant clusterf**k. They really need to get the NFL officials back ASAP.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 16:00 |
Oh, I also forgot that there was a huge no-call on our secondary for pass interference that everyone in the stadium except the officials saw. It was a lucky break, but still a terrible missed call.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 16:23 |
Wow. What a week 3. Big ups for Minn for pulling out a big victory. Three overtime games with the barnburner in Tenn (some incrdible plays there), the blahfest in Miami, and the big upset in NO. Crazy stuff. Also, Stafford was removed from the game, gotta imagine injury occured. Also, seemingly big injuries to CJ Spiller and R Bush (which is bad news for my fantasy team if nothing else). Hoping the late games will be just as exciting. Go cards!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 16:25 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
I'm honestly not sure how we came away with that win, considering our secondary realized that they're about as injured and terrible as the Redskins' secondary too. It was like they shut it down in the 4th quarter. Our offensive played great and Dalton and Green both had monster games. I just hope they can continue putting up 30-something every game because they might need it.
I expect to hear a lot of talk about the officiating at the end of the game though. The Skins went for an onside kick after they got back within 7 late in the 4th. The ball only went 9 yards before one of their players touched it, and the officials didn't run off 10 seconds at first, even with Marvin screaming his head off from the sideline about it. They finally did, but I'm pretty sure it was more like 7 or 8 seconds that got run off rather than 10. And then right before the last play, they called a false start on the Skins, then went back into a huddle, then came back out and called false start AND a personal foul (never named the player with the personal foul though). At that point, both benches had come onto the field like the game was about over (it was 3rd and 45 and about 60-70 yards away from the end zone, so it's not like the Skins had a great chance). But the entire scene was so chaotic that all the little things added up for one giant clusterf**k. They really need to get the NFL officials back ASAP.
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Absolutely. Plenty of examples of why this needs to be resolved. No hope for it soon though IMO.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 16:29 |
It's funny, I remember thinking "how much worse can it be?" I mean the old refs sucked buckets of anus, but to my shock these are much worse lol :(
Like I said on your FB, they still beat the Skins, and for that I am a Bengals fan for the week. Also loving the Cards right now, beating the snot out of Vick and co.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 16:38 |
Oh my god! Do the Lions suck!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 18:01 |
They played pretty well to get to overtime. But yeah...that call to go for it...no way that was the right decision IMO. At least not with that play call.
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Catcher10
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Posted: September 23 2012 at 18:32 |
WOW...so many blown and bad calls, up to this point I was not understanding all the complaints, but now I fully get it.
Terrible loss for the Saints, the ship needs some help....BADLY!
Nice win by Dallas and big win by the Bengals....
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