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Poll Question: Which three?
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Ouch! A German version of this sold worryingly well in Germany as well.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:



For instance I could've shared this one and would probably get more votes. One of my jobs is preschool teaching and I and my kids love this song; haha. 

My Italian teacher when I was still in London played this to me. I find it strangely fascinating. Apparently this was number one in Italy for seven weeks. These Romans are crazy!  Glugluglu!



One of the finer educational and fun videos for kids that I've heard. (Believe me I've heard MANY) There's even Turkey, my country. LOL

The problem for me is that my ears are allergic to auto-tune, unless it is used for "non-human" voices, like aliens and stuff. More precisely, I like the abusing of auto-tune, but hate this kind of "unnatural but seemingly pleasant" kind of it. So if someone wants me to like his/her auto-tuned piece, s/he has to use it really bizarrely or else I would hate it. As a singer myself, I'll never "deceive" people by using it, and make regular listeners believe that I have a better voice than how it actually sounds.

Anyway, an effective and good piece for the kids, and I guess they should be immune to auto-tune, as their ears should be "vaccinated" by it, hearing from here and there; considering its extensive usage in the recent years, haha.
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RushFan4 ~ I remember Samantha Fox, but not this song.  And also the Paula Abdul and Twisted Sister selections.   All three are kind of cartoon-y, teen-boy-centric to me (which is how hair bands appear to me), and very MTV-friendly, of course.  Maybe it was because I was living near the Hollywood area at that time.  Which is not to denigrate your taste, they actually fit into the idea, for me, of guilty pleasures. 


Well, I am pretty certain I was a teen boy when most of these songs came out and hair bands were all the rage and thus this is where I cut my musical ears and hence my nostalgia for hair metal.  I don't listen to it nearly as much as I did but now being a 50-year old man child, the air guitar and drums come out when these songs come on.  Honestly, I have very little guilt with the Twisted Sister song, I just wanted to match micky with his Ratt video.  The other two songs are purely awful top 40 dance songs that managed to sink their teeth into me and I am quite sure that the pretty women in the videos may have had something to do with that.  So in keeping with what I think is the theme of this thread, those two are definitely guilty pleasures.  
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

RushFan4 ~ I remember Samantha Fox, but not this song.  And also the Paula Abdul and Twisted Sister selections.   All three are kind of cartoon-y, teen-boy-centric to me (which is how hair bands appear to me), and very MTV-friendly, of course.  Maybe it was because I was living near the Hollywood area at that time.  Which is not to denigrate your taste, they actually fit into the idea, for me, of guilty pleasures. 


Well, I am pretty certain I was a teen boy when most of these songs came out and hair bands were all the rage and thus this is where I cut my musical ears and hence my nostalgia for hair metal.  I don't listen to it nearly as much as I did but now being a 50-year old man child, the air guitar and drums come out when these songs come on.  Honestly, I have very little guilt with the Twisted Sister song, I just wanted to match micky with his Ratt video.  The other two songs are purely awful top 40 dance songs that managed to sink their teeth into me and I am quite sure that the pretty women in the videos may have had something to do with that.  So in keeping with what I think is the theme of this thread, those two are definitely guilty pleasures.  


  I'm glad you didn't take umbrage, for I figured you probably were of that age, that indeed it would be nostalgic.  Hey, hey, I liked The Monkees!  Smile  So very much a young girl of my time's choice, after all.  Plus, all of those hair bands toured a lot and metal bands, too, throughout the 80's.  Bread and butter for me.  
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@Nickie, what a great collection of thoughts and observations. I am enjoying your comments here and throughout as well. Clap

On Mr. Ed, I watched way too many reruns after school back in the day. I wasn't around for these shows when they first came out, but reruns are why I know Eartha Kitt mainly as Catwoman. And I have seen a good number of episodes of the Monkees (maybe all). A fair number of those shows from 60's and early 70's like Beverly Hillbillies, Get Smart, Gomer Pyle (wanted to find a "shame, shame, shame" clip from YouTube for this poll but none to be found), Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island, etc. Probably warped my sensibilities in some way and explains my rather short attention span. Now that I am all grown up, I've replaced that with watching YouTube videos. Such progress.... Tongue  
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Anyway, I've decided to nominate David Lee Roth's "Yankee Rose" as my song for this poll. The funny thing is that I had no idea until a couple of days ago (when I found the link to the official video on YouTube) that the song was about the Statue of LibertyLOL! Well, just in time for July 4Wink.

Though I think Diamond Dave pictured the Statue of Liberty like this:
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


I have two guilty pleasure songs. The first one is:
 
 
 
The second one is:
 
 

Osmonds would be the guilty one here. 

That Nik video isn't playing here in the U.S. I definitely remember the song. Would this be a fair replacement (it's the 'extended' version):

EDIT: Replacing the extended one once it was pointed out that it isn't as good.





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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My sixth suggestion: Goran Bregovich: O Bella Ciao (Italian traditional song about the Partisans)


 

This doesn't play in the U.S. Is this the same one? The thumbnail appears to be from same concert, but maybe he wears that same outfit all the time.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

@Nickie, what a great collection of thoughts and observations. I am enjoying your comments here and throughout as well. Clap

On Mr. Ed, I watched way too many reruns after school back in the day. I wasn't around for these shows when they first came out, but reruns are why I know Eartha Kitt mainly as Catwoman. And I have seen a good number of episodes of the Monkees (maybe all). A fair number of those shows from 60's and early 70's like Beverly Hillbillies, Get Smart, Gomer Pyle (wanted to find a "shame, shame, shame" clip from YouTube for this poll but none to be found), Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island, etc. Probably warped my sensibilities in some way and explains my rather short attention span. Now that I am all grown up, I've replaced that with watching YouTube videos. Such progress.... Tongue  


  Why, thank you, third time *blushing* today.  Oh lord, I loved all of those shows, too, and not sure if you remember it, but Green Acres, too.  On one of The Monkees episodes, Peter learns how to play the harp, you may remember that one.  Smile  And do you remember the one where Jim Nabors sang? My Nashville harp teacher had some connection to him, I can't remember what it was, but she certainly got a kick out of knowing him.  I have to admit, I was old enough to see these shows first run.  

Thanks for not minding my expounding on the individual pieces, it was the only way I could figure to do this one!  
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and while I am at it, here's the German guy with Mendocino for the States.



In checking out a few seconds of videos of this, it's quite amazing that over the 40+ years he's been singing that song, he seems to perform and use the same moves in every video, with the hip swing, and that up and down with the right arm. Every time.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I think at the end I'll go for Clouds Across the Moon by the Rah Band. Thanks raff and snicolette for feedback on "Das Messer"; I think now that this is still about the music and that I shouldn't try to get people to read translated lyrics for understanding what the issue is with that song. Who hasn't heard it yet, still do anyway. Musically it's great.

Clouds Across the Moon has all the elements of a terrible 80s disco song and yet is so charming (and it played a fun role in a relationship with a lady who is still very dear to me).   

I agree about Clouds Across the Moon. It is terrible, that is excellent, in this context!

If you have time, what do you think about my two candidates?

1) CCCP & Amanda Lear: Tomorrow
2) Goran Bregovich

2) Goran Bregovich: Bella ciao
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My sixth suggestion: Goran Bregovich: O Bella Ciao (Italian traditional song about the Partisans)


 

This doesn't play in the U.S. Is this the same one? The thumbnail appears to be from same concert, but maybe he wears that same outfit all the time.



Well, I dont know because your video doesnt play in Italy!

But the duration of the two videos is similar: 4 and a half minutes.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My sixth suggestion: Goran Bregovich: O Bella Ciao (Italian traditional song about the Partisans)


 

This doesn't play in the U.S. Is this the same one? The thumbnail appears to be from same concert, but maybe he wears that same outfit all the time.



Well, I dont know because your video doesnt play in Italy!

But the duration of the two videos is similar: 4 and a half minutes.

LOL Anyone in a country that can play both videos?
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I try to explain my choices. 

1) CCCP & Amanda Lear: TOMORROW
Tomorrow seems to me a very trash song by Amanda Lear, but the CCCP, a pro-Soviet punk group which was formed in Berlin before the fall of the wall, are able to transform it in a decadent song, an almost German cabaret with Italian demented elements. The singer, Giovanni Lindo Ferretti, whom you have already heard in the first interactive Poll (CSI, L'ora delle tentazioni) at that time was totally unable to sing, but he made this defect a quality. So this song is at the same time, in my opinion, a form of post punk art-rock and a demented cabaret song. 

2) GORAN BREGOVICH: Bella Ciao
The second song, Bella ciao, an Italian traditional song, almost a national anthem, the most famous song about the partisan resistance in Italy that defeated fascism and brought the Republic, is a song that I love, simple but beautiful. Bregovic with his orchestra makes her lose her melancholy streak and transforms it into the usual Balkan circus number. On the one hand I enjoy his arrangement, on the other I find it tacky. And as Snicolette has seen well, the slow parts, that is those least pumped by the wind orchestra are the best.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

and while I am at it, here's the German guy with Mendocino for the States.



In checking out a few seconds of videos of this, it's quite amazing that over the 40+ years he's been singing that song, he seems to perform and use the same moves in every video, with the hip swing, and that up and down with the right arm. Every time.
  Now that I can see this version....Yes, about the cheesiest ever!  Not just any cheddar mind you, but Vieux Boulogne.     LOL
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Added just for fun proving hair metal was around in 1972:

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

 Why, thank you, third time *blushing* today.  Oh lord, I loved all of those shows, too, and not sure if you remember it, but Green Acres, too.  On one of The Monkees episodes, Peter learns how to play the harp, you may remember that one.  Smile  And do you remember the one where Jim Nabors sang? My Nashville harp teacher had some connection to him, I can't remember what it was, but she certainly got a kick out of knowing him.  I have to admit, I was old enough to see these shows first run.

Didn't watch much Green Acres. It was re-run during school. 

But, yes, now that you mention it, I do remember Peter and the harp. I don't remember Jim Nabors on the Monkees, but definitely singing on Gomer Pyle. He sang a number of times, and this one with Carol Burnett (a classic herself) is fun. 
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I think at the end I'll go for Clouds Across the Moon by the Rah Band. Thanks raff and snicolette for feedback on "Das Messer"; I think now that this is still about the music and that I shouldn't try to get people to read translated lyrics for understanding what the issue is with that song. Who hasn't heard it yet, still do anyway. Musically it's great.

Clouds Across the Moon has all the elements of a terrible 80s disco song and yet is so charming (and it played a fun role in a relationship with a lady who is still very dear to me).   

I agree about Clouds Across the Moon. It is terrible, that is excellent, in this context!

If you have time, what do you think about my two candidates?

1) CCCP & Amanda Lear: Tomorrow
2) Goran Bregovich

2) Goran Bregovich: Bella ciao

I can't see any reason for feeling guilty about Bregovich, this is just fun, no? Well, maybe as an Italian you feel different about treating this sacred song like that, but still, I like it and feel totally innocent about it. Bregovich is well respected, it seems to me. I know a number of things that he has done, and in both Germany and the UK he has big audiences (wasn't aware of Italy up to now). The CCCP & Amada Lear one is truly terrible. Probably it's meant to be like that but still. Trying to hurt the ears on purpose is no excuse for doing it. I'm all for cabaret but it shouldn't sound like this really. Now I already said I'll vote for what I like better, so if you prefer feeling guilty, use CCCP, if you want a chance to snatch my vote (but I can't promise anything, haven't heard most things yet), use Bregovich.


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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

 
 
The second one is:
 
 

Osmonds would be the guilty one here. 

That Nik video isn't playing here in the U.S. I definitely remember the song. Would this be a fair replacement (it's the 'extended' version):




Hmmm. I can't comment on what works in the US, but as a passionate lover of that song I think the extended version is really quite a bit worse. There was no reason making it longer by adding some pretty generic studio trickery. There must be a video of the original version that plays in the US!? It was a megahit.
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What about these?



By the way, if you have far too much time (and we should always have time for Nik, shouldn't we?), this is a seriously good gig:



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