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    Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:32

Has there ever been a progressive punk band?  I know progressive and punk kind of contradict each other, but I think a progressive punk band would be cool.  I guess the Mars Volta is the closest to progressive punk.
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:37
Originally posted by The Minstrel The Minstrel wrote:

Has there ever been a progressive punk band?  I know progressive and punk kind of contradict each other, but I think a progressive punk band would be cool.  I guess the Mars Volta is the closest to progressive punk.

I guess, you should stop guessing.Tongue

 Progressive Punk is as clear an oxymoron you are going to find in music.LOL



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Well Mars Volta would be as close as you could get to progressive punk and that is only becuase they have punk roots and reviews will tell you the same. I personally don't agree with them, but I know kids who will attend a get-up kids concert and then drive home listening to Mars Volta.....I dunno.

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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:44

Originally posted by WillieThePimp WillieThePimp wrote:

, but I know kids who will attend a get-up kids concert.

What's one of them?Confused  Like NAMBLA or something?Shocked



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Last month i was introduced to a punk band that didnt agree with the direction of punk, their albums are extremely technical and very punk..but for the life of me i cant remeber the groups name
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Haha, I knew I shouldn't of said that on a prog forum. The Get-up Kids are some emo/punk band. I was saying that kids who love those kind of bands listen to Mars Volta as well.
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Originally posted by WillieThePimp WillieThePimp wrote:

Haha, I knew I shouldn't of said that on a prog forum. The Get-up Kids are some emo/punk band. I was saying that kids who love those kind of bands listen to Mars Volta as well.

Obviously because the members of the Mars Volta used to be in an emo-like band called At The Drive In.
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Originally posted by WillieThePimp WillieThePimp wrote:

Haha, I knew I shouldn't of said that on a prog forum. The Get-up Kids are some emo/punk band. I was saying that kids who love those kind of bands listen to Mars Volta as well.


Whats so bad about that?, at least they listen to some good music...
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Prog punk?

I prefer prog-rap.
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Points: 3484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:47

Peter Hammill's Nadir's Big Chance has a punk feel at times. In fact, some have suggested the origins of punk in the UK could have originated by Hammill's Nadir's Big Chance.

I would say, While 2-3 songs are somewhat punkish, the idea of Nadir's Big Chance being the origin of punk is complete bunc...but maybe you might want to check it out  yourself. Great lp.
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The Stranglers, The Sound, Twelfth Night (?), Violent Femmes, Echo & the Bunnymen....close enough..
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I think Punk is the ultimate form of progressive rock.

no structure, completely loose, ever changing time-signatures.
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Points: 16442 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:02

Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

Prog punk?

I prefer prog-rap.

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

I think Punk is the ultimate form of progressive rock.

no structure, completely loose, ever changing time-signatures.

  
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I'd recommend Television's "Marquee Moon" and Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation".

Punk was liberating for people who wanted to make music, and some managed to turn that inspiration into a 'progressive' approach...despite often lacking prog's esteem for virtuosity. So the genres may not so opposite as some would have you believe.

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Points: 16442 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:11
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

I'd recommend Television's "Marquee Moon" and Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation".

Punk was liberating for people who wanted to make music, and some managed to turn that inspiration into a 'progressive' approach...despite often lacking prog's esteem for virtuosity. So the genres may not so opposite as some would have you believe.

Yes, they are. I blame Punk for destroying the "classic prog scene".

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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:18
It's a good thing we have punk to blame, or maybe we'd be forced to recognize that the original prog scene was already starting to run out of steam...
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:24
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

It's a good thing we have punk to blame, or maybe we'd be forced to recognize that the original prog scene was already starting to run out of steam...

Another hooray for Punk.
I was thinking the excact same thing myself
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:27
Progs enemy number one was not punk! It was the most evil of all...I dare not say it, but I must......: DISCO
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Originally posted by lostrom lostrom wrote:

Progs enemy number one was not punk! It was the most evil of all...I dare not say it, but I must......: DISCO

Prog's biggest enemy was prog itself. The musicians of that era lost interest and decided to make some money.
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