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~Rael~ 
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
 Topic: I Like Scarsick!Posted: December 20 2008 at 17:05 |
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And I'm not afraid to admit it. It isn't as good as Remedy Lane, Concrete Lake, or Entropia, but I still like it. I even prefer it over Be. It isn't as progressive, but I like the songs. The only one I could do without is Disco Queen. All the others, though, are good.
I can't be the only one who likes Scarsick. . . can I? |
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I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . .
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Drew
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Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 17:20 |
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I sure don't- that album (and the band's anti-American lyrics) are the reason I now detest the band. I'm fine with it- since then I have found much better music to listen to.
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:05 |
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I like the anti-American lyrics. Not sure if you noticed, but they make a point.
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I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . .
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:06 |
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And what music have you found that is better? I'm always looking for new bands to listen to.
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I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . .
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Man With Hat
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:07 |
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Disco Queen is my favorite from that CD.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:19 |
How can you not notice? That doesn't save them from being inane. |
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Hail Eris!
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Sunny In Jeddah
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Joined: November 18 2008 Location: IslamAin'tSoBad Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 19:43 |
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someone post the anti-American lyrics plz
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Plankowner
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 09 2008 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 4006 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 22:19 |
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I like it too Rael... It's kind of what P.O.S. is about, sure it may not be as good as some of their albums.. but it has it's own charm. Think it reflects their personality and it's true to their form. Plus it's Part II of the Perfect Element storyline.. probably make more sense when the third part of the story is released...
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Tapfret
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8581 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 22:32 |
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Lyrics aside, the music was a huge step backwards from the eclectic Be. I don't listen to it at all. Just pisses me off.
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 23:04 |
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So do I, kinda. The kinda "like" where I have the CD but never listen to it(ever).
The problem is that unlike every other PoS album, it completely fails to move me in any way. Something's just missing... it just sounds like a huge mistake that great musicians usually make once or twice in their careers. Since free speech is a basic part of being American and it's just an opinion anyway, the lyrics don't bother me but the song America is complete garbage all around, as is Disco Queen. I never skip any songs on any of their other albums. So yeah, it's decent music but as a PoS album and as a follow up to Be it sucks giant monkey balls.  |
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~Rael~
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 247 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 23:06 |
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I don't find the lyrics inane at all, quite imaginative, actually. Not every lyric needs to be a riddle wrapped in metaphors to be creative.
And, I am glad they took a step back from Be, because it is my least favorite of theirs. I have given it several tries, and it just bores the hell out of me. |
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I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . .
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Rivertree
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Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17626 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 10:52 |
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I was shocked by the Disco Queen when listening for the first time - but it really grows - great album
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sleeper
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Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 13:49 |
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Its not a bad album, but by the standards that Daniel Gildenlow has set, its not too good to be honest. I've said before that I understand why the music was simpler, and that the concept is all from the point of view of someone that has grown up with physical abuse, not necasserally the band themselves but, as with Ansen, it just doesnt move me at all.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Gamemako
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 14:30 |
The problem is not that it is direct; rather, it is shallow as a kiddie pool. It doesn't feel like the raw emotion of, say, Lilium Cruentus, and it doesn't feel like a complex evaluation of modern life. It just feels shallow and whiny, like an angsty 16-year-old ranting about the man. I could tell you all the things I feel about it, or you could read my review. Note that it was adapted from MER's site, so the format is a bit odd. //EDIT: For direct lyrics that are good, try Royal Hunt's Paradox II -- Collision Course. Most of the tracks are explicitly about a specific event or practice, but they still manage to be thoughtful. Edited by Gamemako - December 21 2008 at 14:35 |
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Hail Eris!
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 16:39 |
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Disco Queen is pretty much the best song on the album, up there with Cribcagged depending on my mood. But yeah not an overall fan of the album. It's mediocre and as has been said Daniel's bar is far above mediocre.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Avantgardehead
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Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 23:08 |
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Ah, the album that led to me never listening to Pain of Salvation again. I can't stand that Gildenlöw guy and his pretentious sob-stories anymore...
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 23:29 |
Yes, I agree with most of this. "Disco Queen" is great, but the other song I like is "Kingdom of Loss." Everything else is pretty darn detestable. It's not even that it's poor because it was released by Pain of Salvation. That definitely makes it seem worse, but I wouldn't have liked it if any other band put it out either.
I appreciate that the band is never stagnant creatively, but the ideas and performance this time around were just lackluster and unmoving. Edited by Moatilliatta - December 21 2008 at 23:30 |
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www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
 
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Luke. J
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Joined: March 07 2008 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 380 |
Posted: December 21 2008 at 23:31 |
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To be honest, I also think Scarsick is not a bad album, yet I have experienced something similar to Avantgardehead: Before I heard the album, Pain of Salvation was my favorite band. After I heard it, I wished they never had released Scarsick. Now I have come back to their earlier albums, but their is a huge amount of dust on the Scarsick disc. For it seems not as well thought, too exaggerated in the lyrics, missing something emotionally moving, and less original in the music and overall just forgetable, I don't listen to it anymore. I might be able to let it play in the background, nothing more.
Still, my favorite song would be Enter Rain.
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: December 22 2008 at 00:04 |
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I dunno guys, sometimes I think bashing America has become almost a fad. I mean, you just aren't cool or hardcore enough if you haven't bashed the US yet in music.
That's not to say the lyrics to ''America" are completely wrong, either. I live here and have observed much of what the song talks about, but when you excercize freedom of speech to simply scathe the very country that made freedom of speech possible, I just think that's kinda lame, no matter who you are or what reasons you have for saying those things.
HOWEVER . . .
I grow to like "Scarsick'' more and more every time I listen to it. Then again I like KoRn, Mudvayne, Disturbed and the like, so that simpler, more straight-forward approach to the heaviness of it all if something I've already been familiar with. Yes, every other PoS album is better than "Scarsick", but tghat doesn't mean this album is horrible by any stretch of the imagination. I wouldn't even call it mediocre. It's just different and more direct. Since PoS was not known for this type of music before the album came out, alot of people got pissed because they weren't expecting it, but I thought it was a great decision to make. What's more progressive than surprising absolutely everyone with your newest album?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: December 22 2008 at 02:43 |
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I don't mind a band changing things around and sounding different...
But Scarsick was a bad decision. I think I now know why Kristoffer left the band... he didn't want to be on such a bad album. I dislike Disco music; so PoS making a track that is disco is not my thing at all. Then you have that weird Musical sound of America. It just reminds me of Bernstein and well, I don't like him either. Kingdom of Loss is better and one of the better tracks on the album but it's all just too late... I've listened to about 3 times... and I've never listened to any Pain of Salvation since. The lyrics are terrible and Daniel's attitude is harsh. |
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