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    Posted: August 02 2007 at 21:58
Well I think its about time someone started a apreciation thread on this sub-genre, I'm mainly keen on Mahavishnu, AREA, Perigeo, Al di Meola, Bill Bruford, Return to Forever, Zappa and softmachine (in their Jazzy works) now does anyone can tell me of another groups I and a lot of people interested in this genre should start their acquintance? Ideas?thoughts? opinions? new groups we should start hearing and old groups we dont discuss a lot?

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Miles Davis, Soft Machine & Zappa are my favorites so far but im still a jazz-rock/fusion n0ob. Some help of what to get next whuld be nice. Tongue
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Tony Williams is an excellent choice. He's one of the first pioneers. Also Conrad Schrenk Extravaganza comes to mind.

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from the Italians..

HIGHLY recommend Area... but not if you want strict jazz-rock/fusion... because they weren't. Perigeo were more traditional JR/F  and I love their albums.  Great stuff
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Im a newb as well, its so hard to find and then those special quirky ones are much harder...

The only I got now are
-Al Di Meola and his trio projects
-Mahavishnu Orchestra
-Ohm:
-Return to Forever
-Planet X
-Billy Cobham

And unfortunately...I think thats it. Though I'm probably missing a few.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:12
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Im a newb as well, its so hard to find and then those special quirky ones are much harder...

The only I got now are
-Al Di Meola and his trio projects
-Mahavishnu Orchestra
-Ohm:
-Return to Forever
-Planet X
-Billy Cobham

And unfortunately...I think thats it. Though I'm probably missing a few.


earlier someone suggested Tony Williams and those albums seem to easy to find here in the states.... they are great albums..and essential.
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Conrad Schrenk is rare, but if you hear it you'll realize it was worth the effort to find such beautiful music. He's like no other.

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Dezo Ursiny - Pevnina detstva

This is an excellent fusion album from Slovakia that is quite obscure. The artist was only just put up on PA yesterday hence the lack of reviews. So seek it out, the other albums by him are not really jazz/fusion so look for this one in particular!

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16188
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i'm taking guitar courses from this guy who's spent the last three years studying jazz improvisation in Leeds and every now and then he suggests me some jazz artists and the last one was Guthrie Govan and i'd have to say he's OK...

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sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...



-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Guthrie Govan being merely OK? He's totally amazing. When his album came out I had it on repeat for weeks!
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Points: 1678 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:13
Originally posted by Salviaal Salviaal wrote:

Guthrie Govan being merely OK? He's totally amazing. When his album came out I had it on repeat for weeks!


hey, cut me some slack here.. i'm only starting to appreciate jazz... it will take me some time, you know...

-music is like pornography...

sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...



-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:28

I see we have two Jazz-Rock threads. Confused
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Dixie Dregs will pwn your face right off your shining skull. I love 'em.
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Herbie Hancock Trio with Ron Carter & Tony Williams is a far from bad fusion album.



More jazz than rock is the album This That of Dick-Heckstall Smith (now who did he play with before? Wink), Jack Bruce and John Stevens. Quite enjoyable, or as some say - a classic.

I got both earlier this week, and apart from that I enjoy Soft Machine, Al Di Meola, Pierre Moerlen's Gong, Embryo, Hectic Watermelon, Weather Report, Jaco Pastorius, Return to Forever and many more...


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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:15
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I see we have two Jazz-Rock threads. Confused



We do?? I'll ask an admin to merge the two...


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Points: 315 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:00
ah! i forgot to say I know too Weather Report; thanks Angelo, if its possible to merge the two, great, if not, it's no biggy, I just want to have a thread of appreciation of Jazz Rock where everyone can give tips to albums no one knows or discuss the musicianship of the groups connected to this subgenre or just to jazz, and it working, I dont know a lot of names discussed here...dont know where to start!

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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:38
Sure - no problem. Nice Perigeo review, Miguel.

BTW: you might want to change the thread title independent from the merge: appreciation has 1 t and 2 p's Wink
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Points: 315 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:43
Geez and I call myself a good english speller, Embarrassedreally I can't seem to know how I made that error, oh well. Living and learning! Thanks, AngeloThumbs%20Upthat Perigeo album really is one of my faves, but I want to get to know more and more groups, I think I dont know that much about Jazz RockUnhappy

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Brand X their Morrocan Roll is a very good album.
Allready mentioned Hectic Watermelon. Never enough mentions for this one though!!
And give Kenso and Fromuz a try.
Not yet in the Archives are Combination Head, a very good band.
 
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 07:08
We've seen worse spelling and grammar than yours here Wink

As for JR/F: there's so much to be found and discovered, and there's a lot of stuff that is just on the other side of the borders between Jazz Rock and other Jazz that it will take forever to know everything. I've been on PA for over a year now, and before that I hadn't even considered delving into this genre. Now I'm addicted...
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