The biggest scams in hifi

No oliver, I won't link to the "biggest lies in audio" pdf here ... I'll just list the theories that I find most laughable about audiophile metaphysics:

1. Vibration Cancelling Devices for CD players.
2. Doubling cables (using two or more cables instead of one).
3. Power Line tweaking and optimizing.
4. Musical CD players can extract more information from the CD than cheap ones (or computer CD drives).

Any comments?

BTW: Please note that I don't want to ridicule audiophile systems in general. There are many things that can be done to improve the sound of a hifi systems - some cheap, some expensive. But the things that I mentioned are just plain silly ...

Yes both extract exactly the same information from the Cd that goes without saying no?

Snow Dog wrote: Lindsay Lohan wrote: Yes both extract exactly the same information from the Cd that goes without saying no? Well that was Mikes point! Now you agree with it.

Yep hooray but i have never seen any argument that said that it is otherwise.

Lindsay Lohan wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Lindsay Lohan wrote: Yes both extract exactly the same information from the Cd that goes without saying no? Well that was Mikes point! Now you agree with it. Yep hooray but i have never seen any argument that said that it is otherwise.

I have.......but its not my point.

Snow Dog wrote: Lindsay Lohan wrote: I have never seen a argument like that anywhere and im sure you must have misunderstood or something Im very sorry. You are the one that misunderstood.

Well then exactly what have i misunderstood?

Lindsay Lohan wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Lindsay Lohan wrote: I have never seen a argument like that anywhere and im sure you must have misunderstood or something Im very sorry. You are the one that misunderstood. Well then exactly what have i misunderstood?

Mike said:

I'll just list the theories that I find most laughable about audiophile metaphysics:

Musical CD players can extract more information from the CD than cheap ones (or computer CD drives).

Maidenrulez said:

Musical players are ofcourse better than cheap computer drive ones!

I said:

But they cannot extract more information.

Which is reiterating Mikes point, while you in your answer missed his point.

Lindsay Lohan wrote: Blah, yes but it seemed like such and obvious thing that even the cheapest of cd players can extract the same information BUT its what happens to that information afterwards is what matters. So yes Cheap cd players can extract the same inforamtion but it can not Reproduce it as detailed as the more expansive ones.

Well don't argue with me.........it was Mikes point not mine. I just like to see clarity of argument!

And yes its not ONLY the D/A converters that is resposible for the good sound but you would need one of these:

If you would want to sound good!