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Sean Trane 
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 Topic: Which city Krautrocked most?
Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:06 |
70's only, which city krautrocked more?
read below which groups originated from which city.
Berlin – Tangerine Dream, Agitation Free, Ash Ra Tempel, Birth Control, Cluster, Emtidi, Os Mundi, Murphy Blend, Froese, Schulze, Hoenig, Gotsching, etc…
Munich – Amon Duul (II), Between, Deuter, Embryo, Emergency, Missing Link, Out Of Focus, Popol Vuh, Sahara/Subj Esq, Sparifankel
Ruhr region (Essen, Duisburg, Düsseldorf & Dortmund) – Grobschnitt, Hoelderlin, Epitath, Streetmark, Kraftwerk, LA-Düsseldorf, Neu!, Broselmachine
Stuttgart (black forest) – Anyone's Daughter, Gila, Kraan (in the region), Siddartha
Cologne/Bonn – Floh De Cologne, Can, Eiliff, Gomorrha, Triumvirat, studios of Dieter Dierks and Conny Plank's studio as well.
Hesse (Frankfurth to Upper Rhein region) – Guru Guru, Octopus, Xhol, Nosferatu, 2066 &Then, Epsilon, Pell Mell, Nine Day's Wonder, Kin Pin Meh, Brainstorm
Hamburg – Ardo Bombec, Atlantis, Frumpy, Cornucopia, Faust, Lucifer's Friend, Novalis, Ougenweide, Release Music Orchestra
Hannover – Eloy, Scorpions, Jane
Bremen – Parzival, Thirsty Moon
Edited by Sean Trane - July 05 2007 at 08:12
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iguana
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:18 |
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absolutely BERLIN. the city in the early 70s (the divided), with all the political
ongoings and its then cleary identifiable melting pot of ideas and ideologies,
was the absolute hotbed for the movement. close draw to munich and
the ruhr area though. hamburg (my home town) had some bands but
they drew too much from traditional influences to be totally proggy
or being clearly within the krautrock spirit.
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:20 |
Düsseldorf my hometown for sure rocked the most! 
...and why didn't Düsseldorf get a separate entry for voting Hugues. 
Edited by Alucard - July 04 2007 at 08:22
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iguana
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:51 |
[QUOTE=Alucard] Düsseldorf my hometown for sure rocked the most!
...and why didn't Düsseldorf get a separate entry for voting Hugues.
“... ja sind wir im wald hier, wo bleibt unser altbier,
wir haben in düsseldorf die längste theke der welt,
jajajajaaaaaaaa..." 
NOT krautrock-related, community!
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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fuxi
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:59 |
 Alucard wrote:
...and why didn't Düsseldorf get a separate entry for voting Hugues. |
Let's face it: they could learn a lesson or two from Cologne, which CLEARLY rocked the most, since no-one rocked as hard as CAN!
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 09:17 |
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when you have eloy and jane from the same city, the choice is clear!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:15 |
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I almost included Cologne in the Ruhr area because it is still fairly close to Düsseldorf (and there must be no agriculture left between the two cities), but I believe this would be a historical mistake.
Cologne also had one of the most important elements, that made it special!! The Dirks studios. This is where most of those Krautrock albums got made.
kenethlevine wrote:
when you have eloy and jane from the same city, the choice is clear! |
Certainly the herdest rocking anyway with Scorpions as well. that city only had three groups but all three still exist today.
Edited by Sean Trane - July 04 2007 at 10:17
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:37 |
Igunana,
you make me thirsty just mentioning Alt (the local beer) 
BTW what does a 'Fischkopp' thinks about the inclusion of Achim Reichel?
PS and I must agree once my local-patriotic feelings left aside that the Kraftwerk/Neu /Cluster /La Düsseldorf connection is not really Kraut, but what the heck....
PS2 Hugues the Dierks Studio are not in Cologne but on the countryside (Stommeln) closer in fact to Düsseldorf
PS 3 : Oops Stommeln is closer to Cologne 
Edited by Alucard - July 04 2007 at 10:42
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iguana
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:47 |
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Igunana,
you make me thirsty just mentioning Alt (the local beer)
BTW what does a 'Fischkopp' thinks about the inclusion of Achim Reichel?
actually, i know achim – delightful chap. his “grüne reise“ and “wonderland“
stuff is quite credible in the krautrock-realm – i also like his latterday
sing-a-long-stuff, which was always nicely tongue-in-cheek, esp. his
“regenballade“ and “wilder wassermann“-albums with an emphasis on
classic german poetry. you know what i'm on about. but krautrock it ain't...
to all krautrock-aficianados:
check out the KRAUTROCK CLASSICS DVD-series from aviator entertainent – some nice things to discover!
http://aviator-entertainment.com/Index/dvd/musicenglish.html
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:20 |
Alucard wrote:
PS and I must agree once my local-patriotic feelings left aside that the Kraftwerk/Neu /Cluster /La Düsseldorf connection is not really Kraut, but what the heck.... Neu! and early kraftwerk not krautrock
PS2 Hugues the Dierks Studio are not in Cologne but on the countryside (Stommeln) closer in fact to Düsseldorf
PS 3 : Oops Stommeln is closer to Cologne >> Where were the studios in which Conny Plank worked at? I forgot to look that up!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:29 |
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Berlin School is my favourite, but Düsseldorf comes a close second.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:38 |
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interesting poll question, I voted for Munich despite that the Berlin underground electronic scene introduced me to the genre
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 12:01 |
philippe wrote:
interesting poll question, I voted for Munich despite that the Berlin underground electronic scene introduced me to the genre |
I knew you would and had done the same. 
I'm surprised Hamburg hasn't got a vote yet.
Edited by Sean Trane - July 04 2007 at 12:02
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
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fuxi
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 12:59 |
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm surprised Hamburg hasn't got a vote yet. |
German prog freaks will probably think I'm an idiot, but I learnt a lot of German from Udo Lindenberg records, especially BALL POMPOES and VOTAN WAHNWITZ. (Udo's from Hamburg.) 
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:29 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Alucard wrote:
PS and I must agree once my local-patriotic feelings left aside that the Kraftwerk/Neu /Cluster /La Düsseldorf connection is not really Kraut, but what the heck.... Neu! and early kraftwerk not krautrock
PS2 Hugues the Dierks Studio are not in Cologne but on the countryside (Stommeln) closer in fact to Düsseldorf
PS 3 : Oops Stommeln is closer to Cologne >> Where were the studios in which Conny Plank worked at? I forgot to look that up!!
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Conny Planck's studio was also on a farm (those were the days ...in fact the studio was in an ancient pig-barn) near Bonn, that was were the first Kraftwerk & Neu records among others were recorded.
The Dinger Bros, M.Rother, Ralf Hütter , Florian Schneider etc. had really not much in common with the 'US/PsyRock oriented bands. They were more influenced by contemporary classical music & modern Art, especially Pop art. (BTW The Fluxus movement started at the Academy of Fine arts in Düsseldorf) with industrial-like repetitive rhythms and a certain tongue in cheek humour. They even dressed different.
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Alucard
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:42 |
Udo Lindenberg was the first Rock musician (in opposition to 'Schlager'= Pop music) who sang in German. His first records are worth checking out , great musicians and great lyrics. He became late a caricature of himself.
Hamburg was the city with the most Rock'n roll clubs in the 60's especially in Sankt Pauli the red light district, (BTW The Beatles lived and played a long time in Hamburg Clubs among them the famous 'Star Club) There was also great clubs in the 70's 'Die Fabrik' & Onkel Pö with great live music.
One of the most famous early Hamburg bands were The City Preachers with members that become famous : Udo Lindenberg (drummer with TCP then with 'Passport' and later solo) Dagmar Krause ('Slap Happy', 'Henry Cow') JJ Kravetz ('Frumpy ',Lindenberg band) Inga Rumpf (Frumpy Atlantis) Carsten Bohn (Denis, Bandstand,Solo). Frumpy emerged from TCP and another famous early 60's Hamburg band The Rattles the band of guitar player Achim Reichel who has an interesting solo career.
from the left : Kravetz, Schott, Lindenberg, Rumpf, Krause
Edited by Alucard - July 04 2007 at 13:54
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:47 |
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Really undecided... finally I've put Munich (mostly because of Amon Duul II and Popol Vuh, among my favourite acts ever)
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 16:48 |
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Cologne, although Hannover also rocks.
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 22:53 |
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Berlin, even David Bowie's Berlin Trilogy (very Kraut!) was conceived there...and then all the electronic prog...
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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fuxi
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Posted: July 05 2007 at 03:41 |
Alucard wrote:
Udo Lindenberg was the first Rock musician (in opposition to 'Schlager'= Pop music) who sang in German. His first records are worth checking out , great musicians and great lyrics. He became late a caricature of himself.
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Glad you appreciate him. "Wahnsinn und Genie gehen Hand in Hand." I particularly like PANISCHE NAECHTE, a rather gloomy album.
Edited by fuxi - July 05 2007 at 07:47
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