Which city Krautrocked most?
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Topic: Which city Krautrocked most?
Posted By: Sean Trane
Subject: Which city Krautrocked most?
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:06
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70's only, which city krautrocked more?
read below which groups originated from which city.
Berlin – Tangerine Dream, Agitation Free, Ash Ra Tempel, Birth Control, Cluster, Emtidi, Os Mundi, Murphy Blend, Froese, Schulze, Hoenig, Gotsching, etc…
Munich – Amon Duul (II), Between, Deuter, Embryo, Emergency, Missing Link, Out Of Focus, Popol Vuh, Sahara/Subj Esq, Sparifankel
Ruhr region (Essen, Duisburg, Düsseldorf & Dortmund) – Grobschnitt, Hoelderlin, Epitath, Streetmark, Kraftwerk, LA-Düsseldorf, Neu!, Broselmachine
Stuttgart (black forest) – Anyone's Daughter, Gila, Kraan (in the region), Siddartha
Cologne/Bonn – Floh De Cologne, Can, Eiliff, Gomorrha, Triumvirat, studios of Dieter Dierks and Conny Plank's studio as well.
Hesse (Frankfurth to Upper Rhein region) – Guru Guru, Octopus, Xhol, Nosferatu, 2066 &Then, Epsilon, Pell Mell, Nine Day's Wonder, Kin Pin Meh, Brainstorm
Hamburg – Ardo Bombec, Atlantis, Frumpy, Cornucopia, Faust, Lucifer's Friend, Novalis, Ougenweide, Release Music Orchestra
Hannover – Eloy, Scorpions, Jane
Bremen – Parzival, Thirsty Moon
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:18
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absolutely BERLIN. the city in the early 70s (the divided), with all the political
ongoings and its then cleary identifiable melting pot of ideas and ideologies, was the absolute hotbed for the movement. close draw to munich and the ruhr area though. hamburg (my home town) had some bands but they drew too much from traditional influences to be totally proggy or being clearly within the krautrock spirit. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:20
Düsseldorf my hometown for sure rocked the most!
...and why didn't Düsseldorf get a separate entry for voting Hugues.
   ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:51
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[QUOTE=Alucard] Düsseldorf my hometown for sure rocked the most!
...and why didn't Düsseldorf get a separate entry for voting Hugues.
“... ja sind wir im wald hier, wo bleibt unser altbier, wir haben in düsseldorf die längste theke der welt, jajajajaaaaaaaa..." 
NOT krautrock-related, community! ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 08:59
Let's face it: they could learn a lesson or two from Cologne, which CLEARLY rocked the most, since no-one rocked as hard as CAN!
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Alucard wrote:Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 09:17
| when you have eloy and jane from the same city, the choice is clear! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:15
I almost included Cologne in the Ruhr area because it is still fairly close to Düsseldorf (and there must be no agriculture left between the two cities), but I believe this would be a historical mistake.
Cologne also had one of the most important elements, that made it special!! The Dirks studios. This is where most of those Krautrock albums got made.
Certainly the herdest rocking anyway with Scorpions as well. that city only had three groups but all three still exist today. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:37
Igunana,
you make me thirsty just mentioning Alt (the local beer)
 BTW what does a 'Fischkopp' thinks about the inclusion of Achim Reichel?
PS and I must agree once my local-patriotic feelings left aside that the Kraftwerk/Neu /Cluster /La Düsseldorf connection is not really Kraut, but what the heck....
PS2 Hugues the Dierks Studio are not in Cologne but on the countryside (Stommeln) closer in fact to Düsseldorf
PS 3 : Oops Stommeln is closer to Cologne
 ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 10:47
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Igunana,
you make me thirsty just mentioning Alt (the local beer)
BTW what does a 'Fischkopp' thinks about the inclusion of Achim Reichel?
actually, i know achim – delightful chap. his “grüne reise“ and “wonderland“ stuff is quite credible in the krautrock-realm – i also like his latterday sing-a-long-stuff, which was always nicely tongue-in-cheek, esp. his “regenballade“ and “wilder wassermann“-albums with an emphasis on classic german poetry. you know what i'm on about. but krautrock it ain't... to all krautrock-aficianados: check out the KRAUTROCK CLASSICS DVD-series from aviator entertainent – some nice things to discover! http://aviator-entertainment.com/Index/dvd/musicenglish.html ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:20
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:29
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Berlin School is my favourite, but Düsseldorf comes a close second. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 11:38
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interesting poll question, I voted for Munich despite that the Berlin underground electronic scene introduced me to the genre ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 12:01
I knew you would and had done the same.
I'm surprised Hamburg hasn't got a vote yet. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 12:59
German prog freaks will probably think I'm an idiot, but I learnt a lot of German from Udo Lindenberg records, especially BALL POMPOES and VOTAN WAHNWITZ. (Udo's from Hamburg.) 
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:29
Conny Planck's studio was also on a farm (those were the days ...in fact the studio was in an ancient pig-barn) near Bonn, that was were the first Kraftwerk & Neu records among others were recorded.
The Dinger Bros, M.Rother, Ralf Hütter , Florian Schneider etc. had really not much in common with the 'US/PsyRock oriented bands. They were more influenced by contemporary classical music & modern Art, especially Pop art. (BTW The Fluxus movement started at the Academy of Fine arts in Düsseldorf) with industrial-like repetitive rhythms and a certain tongue in cheek humour. They even dressed different.
------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:42
Udo Lindenberg was the first Rock musician (in opposition to 'Schlager'= Pop music) who sang in German. His first records are worth checking out , great musicians and great lyrics. He became late a caricature of himself.
Hamburg was the city with the most Rock'n roll clubs in the 60's especially in Sankt Pauli the red light district, (BTW The Beatles lived and played a long time in Hamburg Clubs among them the famous 'Star Club) There was also great clubs in the 70's 'Die Fabrik' & Onkel Pö with great live music.
One of the most famous early Hamburg bands were The City Preachers with members that become famous : Udo Lindenberg (drummer with TCP then with 'Passport' and later solo) Dagmar Krause ('Slap Happy', 'Henry Cow') JJ Kravetz ('Frumpy ',Lindenberg band) Inga Rumpf (Frumpy Atlantis) Carsten Bohn (Denis, Bandstand,Solo). Frumpy emerged from TCP and another famous early 60's Hamburg band The Rattles the band of guitar player Achim Reichel who has an interesting solo career.
http://citypreachers.de/content.html">
 from the left : Kravetz, Schott, Lindenberg, Rumpf, Krause
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:47
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Really undecided... finally I've put Munich (mostly because of Amon Duul II and Popol Vuh, among my favourite acts ever) ------------- 
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 16:48
| Cologne, although Hannover also rocks. |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: July 04 2007 at 22:53
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Berlin, even David Bowie's Berlin Trilogy (very Kraut!) was conceived there...and then all the electronic prog... ------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: July 05 2007 at 03:41
Glad you appreciate him. "Wahnsinn und Genie gehen Hand in Hand." I particularly like PANISCHE NAECHTE, a rather gloomy album.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 05 2007 at 08:11
I'll update my first post about Plaznk's studio infos
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 03:33
UDOOOOOOOO! my main man i can even imitate his, erm, vocals.
a lot of the old hamburg school (“star club“, “onkel pö's“) was way too trad for me and the still active musicians from then are forever wallowing in some sad and very reactionary sort of nostalgia. it's all too much bluez'n'booze for me and everyone will forever claim to have been drinking with the beatles back in the day. get a life. good to have brought up the berlin era of david bowie. i rest my case. berlin it is. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 05:27
I love Die Grüne Reise. Echo is even more fantastic. Hamburg, right? Still, Berlin and Munich are in a league of their own. With Cologne/Bonn third, for Can & Conny Plank alone. Voted the most obvious, Berlin. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 11:07
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Enough is enough....
after all this talk about Berlin & Munich, I just have to take the defense of the Ruhrgebiet (industrial region in the North West of Germany : Essen, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Bochum Oberhausen...)
1. The 'Ruhrgebiet' has the highest density of population in Germany about 16 million people, so just statistically it rocks more then the rest...
 2. Where does Krautrock start if you just have to fix one date? In september 1968 during the Internationale Essener Song Tage in Essen. (Traditionnaly left wing the region was more apt to support 'progessive' art movements in general.)
Amon Düül, Tangerin Dream, Guru Gruru groove, Bernd Witthüser among other played there for the first time in front of a lager public. (together with Zappa, Caravan , The Fugs Check out the program sheet below It was one of the biggest Rock events in the 60's
http://www.detlev-mahnert.de/songtage-programm.html - http://www.detlev-mahnert.de/songtage-programm.html
3. The German brain label organized equally in Essen the Brain Festival in 1977 (Grobschnitt, Novalis, Jane, Message, RMO,Guru Guru) and the famous 'Rockpalast' night (even so more US mainstream rock) started also in the Gruga in Essen.
4. The Ruhrgebiet has a large number of venues Essen : Gruga, Dortmund ; Westfallenhalle , Bochum Zeche, Düsseldorf : Phillipshalle and attracted most of the touring bands plus a large number of school auditoriums for lesser known or risring bands.
5. Again statistically apart from the more known bands like Grobschnitt, Hoelderlin, Epitath, Streetmark, Kraftwerk, LA-Düsseldorf, Neu!, Broselmachine the number of Prog bands per sqaremeter was just higher then the average.
 6. Berlin had a special situation during the cold war and up to 1989. It was an 'island ' in the middle of the tye GDR, was less accesible and had a great but limited scene.
So, vote massively for The Ruhr!!!
 ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 11:42
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It could be an added value to know where the different record labels were based (Pilz, Kukuck, Brain , Ohr, etc...) >>
where was Rockpalast filmed also?
Ruhrgebiet (industrial region in the North West of Germany : Essen, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Bochum Oberhausen...) >> where is Duisburg in here? Kaiserslautern and Hagen also worth mentionning.
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 14:26
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Hugues, Duisburg is the bigest riverport next to 'Düsseldorf'(BTW I saw 'Caravan' in Duisburg in 1977) up the rhine. Hagen is in the east of the 'Ruhrgebiet and 'Kaiserslautern' is in the south of Germany (Rheinland Pfalz) The region itself crosses over 2 regions (Rheinland (west) & Westfalen Lippe(east) BTW Düsseldorf itself is not in the Ruhrgebiet even so it's eastern part is under it's administration. The big 'Rockpalast' nights took place and were broadcasted from the Grugahalle in Essen (if my memory is good they have a double scene each at the oposite side of the venue so they could switch between the scenes). The other (single band) 'Rockpalasts' were filmed either in the studio(live) or with a mobile unit in concert venues all over Germany.
PS another factor that permitted the emergence of bands were the schoolbands. Often the schools proposed a rehearsal room for bands, which played first at school parties and some of them would become professional muiscians. I had a cool guitar player at my school (apart from me
) who founded later the postpunk band 'Belphegor'. ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
...bureaucratesPosted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 07 2007 at 21:22
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Once again some very interesting/detailed information Martin. Unfortunately I when I traveled to Germany, arriving in Frankfurt, then traveling across into east German [early 2004], I was still relatively unaware of the scene in general [no CD splurges]. At the time my life revolved around Can's Tago Mago and Faust's s/t, so the Cologne and Hamburg scenes will always hold dear in my heart. Ruhr, Munich and Berlin as a whole hold most of my attention these days. I could easily vote for Ruhr, producing one of the most rocking live albums prog has seen with Solar live! Though I think I will have to be predictable and vote for Munich, Out of Focus' albums have blown me away over the years. Please note it has been a little while since emerging myself in the genre, so my memory is a little shady. |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 09 2007 at 09:38
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I am a complete outsider, and I don't know a bit about the geographical, sociological etc. situations, so all I care in this respect is the "schools"... Germany's two better-known schools (Berlin and Düsseldorf) influenced the entire electronica genre, but I now realized there were many other Krautrock (or close) bands from elswhere...
Still, my choice is clear, even for the sake of one man: Klaus Schulze! Wherever they (along with all those giants such as TD, Ash Ra Tempel, Agitation Free, Cosmic Jokers etc.) recorded their masterpieces is of little relevance, Schulze and the other two members of the first ART line-up met in Thomas Kessler's studio in Berlin, as far as I know while studying experimental music!...
Actually I always thought of Can (one of my favorite bands) a representative of Düsseldorf school, but apparently geographically they're from elswhere... That still doesn't change my opinion... I always prefer the spacy sound of Berlin bands (where was Wallenstein from?!?!?) over the "motorik" beat of Kraftwerk, Neu! etc.
(I might only reconsider my choice after learning where exactly Achim Reichel and Günter Schickert are from! Both are other representatives of the Echo guitar sound pioneered by Manuel Göttsching, -and despite the fact that AR actually used it before MG invented his album for electric guitar
- and I simply love this approach! Well, Schickert's collaborations with Schulze actually give a hint...)
it's interesting to note that Scorpions is also from the same city
... I like their first album btw, but the poll title should not be overlooked: which city Krautrocked the most?!!!!Both Eloy and Jane, as well as Scorpions (which aren't even prog-rock in the majority of their career!) have clearly a more British sound then German, which is expressed in Kraut... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Sampanviking
Date Posted: July 09 2007 at 18:56
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Well for me its Tangerine Dream vs Amon Duul II.
The Tangs are my favourite band, but Duul "rocked" far more and so I would have to go for Munich
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 20 2007 at 22:06
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Sadly, this thread (poll) has been left forgotten!
Are there really that little krautrockers!?!?!?
I hope this move gives a little excitement
btw, we (Berliners!) are ahead by one vote! Fans of other cities might want to step in and change the score One more thing- I seriously ask the question: where are Wallenstein actually from? I cannot find enough info about them. I always thought of them as a Berlin band, and their members' interactions suggest so (Harald Grosskopf, Cosmic Jokers etc.)
(and whereever they are from, this will not influence my decision...) ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 20 2007 at 22:15
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now these are the kind of threads that still make this site visiting rather than reading about favorite prog guitar solo or some sh*t like that. great thread guys..  Informational as hell Maybe Mandy will whip us us a similar thread for RPI. Say a Roma v. Genova v Napole poll ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 03:50
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 08:10
 GREAT IDEA, MICKY!!!!I was about to propose this was done for a few other countries, but one has to remain in a given decade.
Might as well start with Italy!!!
Heve a few more clappies!!!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 09:02
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Cologne, because of the studios of Can, Conny Plank and Dieter Dierks. Even the Berlin bands came to the studios of Plank and Dierks.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 09:33
And accessorily, this is where our favorite couple lives and rocks ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 09:37
thanks I love clappies hahha..... Raff and I are kicking around bands and cities right now hahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 10:00
Hemel Hempstead - home of I.E.M. 
Actually, it's difficult to call, unlike Liverpool and ------------- What? |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 11:19
Kraut is enough for thinking man
!btw, another clappy from me to Bald Friede... Long time no see ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 06:22
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A very good thread indeed even for a german fellow. Polling is quite hard but the info which is given within the posts is interesting to read anyhow. I voted for Berlin because of the electronic pioniers around Cluster, Ashra Tempel, Tangerine Dream and the space/psychedelic Agitation Free. Some buddies have also mentioned the special political situation in Berlin. Stommeln is 20 km away from Cologne, belongs to Pulheim and the Cologne region! Nice info about the Essener Songtage 1968, Martin - what a great variety - a program consisting of Dunja Rajter, Degenhardt and Amon Düül. I'm astonished about your eccellent (geographical) knowledge. My problem is that some bands are given by Hugues are not fitting into the PA Krautrock category (Embryo, Kraan, Birth Control, Grobschnitt, Tangerine Dream etc.).  - Sorry - don't want to force a new discussion about multiple subgenres ...------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 08:14
All of the bands mentioned above have shown Krautrock characterstics (at least to a certain extent) at a certain point in their career, mostly in the beginning. Seeing that especially Berlin and Düsseldorf schools give birth to the entire prog-electronics genre, it's only natural that Tangerine Dream (and others like Kraftwerk, Klaus Schulze etc.) are lumped into krautrock basket, actully all these started out as the definitive examples of the kraut sound, and then evolved/turned towards/gave rise to other genres...
Novalis or Jane would have been better examples of German bands that are not representatives of Krautrock sound, IMHO
And any German band being referred to as kraut is not unusual in musical circles... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 08:20
btw, has anyone noticed that Atlantis is not in the archives?!?!? I still haven't listened to them, but they are usually referred to as prog, and I know it's like continuation of Frumpy... Any ideas?!?!?
(Scorpions' case is different... They are OK to be in the above list just for the sake of one album, which is clearly not enough for inclusion in PA )------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 10:23
No contradiction
That's boring indeed .... BTW - WALLENSTEIN was founded in Mönchengladbach  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 11:08
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Indeed a very intersesting thread
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 19:36
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- more importantly, why are Wallenstein (at least in their first 3 albums) are closer to the Berlin sound, and 3/4 of their members played in projects mostly carried out by Berliner musicians?!?!? (Tarot, Cosmic Jokers)
- to add to the confusion, Mr. Harald Grosskopf joined Ashra later on, the Berlin band IMHO
(and his first solo album is pretty much parallel to Schulze's sound of the time, as well as Tangerine Dream's!)- I guess I'm too much obsessed with Berlin bands these days ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 03:59
Actually I didn't really take into account the Krautrock thing until I tried to find an appropriate title for the thread. I originalled intended to city which city rocked more.
Mönchengladbach is just on the outskirts of the Ruhr region but on the left bank. I thought of including them as well in the Ruhr, but as you say the Cosmic Jokers was Berliner. So I intentionally both (Wall and CJ) out left them out of both "cities", since there was enough to judge on the rest.
As for Atlantis, we initially discussed this over a year ago, when I proposed both, but Frumpy was an immediate inclusion because fulkl-blown prog, where Atlantis was not quite as essential, because less proggy. I guess they could be entered into prog-related, though!! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 13:34
Oh - I wasn't aware of this ... German name but a french location(?) ...
What the hell is fulkl-blown prog??????????????? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 13:46
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ATLANTIS added more Blues and Funk elements to their music http://cgi.ebay.at/seltener-Aufkleber-Inga-Rumpf-Frumpy-Atlantis_W0QQitemZ130133858176QQihZ003QQcategoryZ46549QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting">  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 17:31
Leaving CJ out is a wise choice, since that band actually never existed in the first place!!! But Wallenstein really makes me wonder. You could have included them in the exact (or closest) region they belong. Well, they wouldn't have changed my vote anyway, because the "holy trinity" of Göttsching-Schulze-Froese is enough for me to place my vote on Berlin, but Wallenstein is also an important figure in krautrock (at least German progressive scene, as you have intended) IMHO... And wherever they're actually from, their close sound to the initial Berlin movement (especially Ash Ra Tempel's debut) made me think they too were Berliner... Not to mention their 3rd album's title!!!
. There's little (if any) prog in it. I'll try to find & listen to the other albums, though...
------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:32
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bump!!! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |