About the top 100

Hello everyone, I 'm new here.

Well, something bothers me in the top 100 albums (our choices) at progarchives:

Have you noticed that only 8 bands (Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Marillion, Dream Theater, Rush) represent almost 60 albums in the top 100!

Don't get me wrong, I love them all but isn't that a little bit too much? What about the others?

This musical genre is supposed to be very rich, with a lot of different talents, bands. Instead of that, I got the feeling that prog rock is dominated by only a few (still great) names.

 

 

Zappa's not there

That one i don't get. There are some other great bands out there, but, unfortunatly, aren't well known. So i can see if they are not present. It's a shame how many great bands are underappreciated. But, i guess thats why were here. To learn about all of that out there.

Welcome, btw.

It makes complete sense to me that that would be the case. Those are the prog rock heavyweights. Like it or not, they have defined the genre. I would expect most of Yes's albums to be there, same with Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson.

What is a crime, imo, is that ELPs aren't ranked higher: Certainly, BSS, Trilogy, the first album and Tarkus should be higher than they are, but their fan base is smaller. But in terms of influence, they deserve to be higher. They are absolutely fantastic albums that were hugely influential when they were released. I think we should have an "ELP Day" on the site, and each member must play one of the first 8 LP albums in their entirety and then rate it.

 Note: I'm not kidding about ELP Day.

ITS A QUESTION OF TASTE...

No question about it: they are HUGE bands but the problem is that everyone knows them!

I'm curious and hungry by nature so I'd be very disappointed if the entire prog-rock genre is more or less reprensented by 8-12 names.

Certif1ed wrote: They're most popular because they got most votes. I hate to see any Yes or Dream Theater rated as highly or higher than Marillion, Pink Floyd, Tull, KC, Rush or Genesis when it quite blatantly isn't true... It's like the pop charts - at the top is the most pop.

Close to the Edge Pop? For me its the quinessential 70s Prog Release.

At least 70% of the albums named in the top 100 don't belong there. Not a single Canterbury or RIO or Zeuhl album mentioned. No Krautrock either. But I never gave a damn about the charts. Again I'll stick with Kobori Enshu: "I used to praise the artist because he created what I liked. Now I praise myself because I like what the artist has chosen for me".

Not that charts matter really, but look what you are doing: you are complaining that more obscure genres and bands aren't on a top 100 chart (which of course ranks popularity).  Sure some of the bands I love aren't on there either, but its undeniable that there are the 6 or 7 heavyweights and that there are just more people into symphonic prog, metal prog, etc.  Canterbury or RIO, while people like them, just aren't the majority's cup of tea.

So they don't make the top 100 charts.  Personally, I listen to the heavyweights much more than the others; they are heavyweights for a reason -- because lots of people like them best and they have a diverse/large collection.

Luckily we have things like these boards to discuss and discover bands and talk with a bit more depth than a popularity contest.  In short, don't worry about it.

niki wrote: No question about it: they are HUGE bands but the problem is that everyone knows them! I'm curious and hungry by nature so I'd be very disappointed if the entire prog-rock genre is more or less reprensented by 8-12 names.

Well prepare to be disappointed about all art movements.  Just as there are genres of music, there are movements of art.  And with each movement there are the Monets, Picassos, and Rockwells.  In short, you'll be hard pressed to find any substantial genre of anything without heavyweights.

Its not a bad thing, Niki.  Use the boards to find discussion on less "prog pop" bands.

The-Bullet wrote: Certif1ed wrote: I hate to see any Yes or Dream Theater rated as highly or higher than Marillion, Pink Floyd, Tull, KC, Rush or Genesis when it quite blatantly isn't true... "Quite blatantly" -, what do you base this on, or did you just forget to add "in my opinion" ?