Tool/Top 100??

The Ryan wrote: Angeldust wrote: Tool don't have many prog - characteristics?Since when all the bands should use some patterns that claim to be prog-characterestics ...?In my head Ozric tentacles sounds as progressive as Hawkwind.And Gong as progressive as Camel.Open your mind ...! What makes Tool original or unique? What they do, I've heard before in many other bands. To me it's nothing new, but that part is my opinion.

i would like you to name one band that plays in the same style as tool. have you seriously heard a vocal style like maynards in your life? personally i hear noone else in their music, i just hear tool.  they are one of the most unique bands on the planet and that is what makes them so popular and great.

ian_b wrote: The Ryan wrote: Angeldust wrote: Tool don't have many prog - characteristics?Since when all the bands should use some patterns that claim to be prog-characterestics ...?In my head Ozric tentacles sounds as progressive as Hawkwind.And Gong as progressive as Camel.Open your mind ...! What makes Tool original or unique? What they do, I've heard before in many other bands. To me it's nothing new, but that part is my opinion. i would like you to name one band that plays in the same style as tool. have you seriously heard a vocal style like maynards in your life? personally i hear noone else in their music, i just hear tool.  they are one of the most unique bands on the planet and that is what makes them so popular and great.

Maynard has no range, I've heard it plenty of times. Do you watch American Idol, do you listen to the radio, do you realize what's popular in America? Pick a band. People who have no dynamics are all the same to me.

King of Loss wrote: I know, I feel like BE should be at least in the top 25 for albums  (Due to the extremely awesome concept that owns every single other one !)

Totally agree    

Poxx wrote: I think the main problem with Tool is that, well, their music sucks ass. Their vocalist is arguably talented - he has some interesting and original ideas. However, the music itself, is completely average, uninspired, bland, monotonous and simple. The fact that the drummer switches back and forth between a couple of odd time signatures, does not make it interesting nor particularly complex. I don't see the problem in Tool being in top 100, infact, the current algorithm should be quite satisfactory, as long as it is understood that it works merely as an indicator of the albums popularity.

, you've shown more sense then everyone else here. I agree with you.

Poxx wrote: I think the main problem with Tool is that, well, their music sucks ass. Their vocalist is arguably talented - he has some interesting and original ideas. However, the music itself, is completely average, uninspired, bland, monotonous and simple. The fact that the drummer switches back and forth between a couple of odd time signatures, does not make it interesting nor particularly complex. I don't see the problem in Tool being in top 100, infact, the current algorithm should be quite satisfactory, as long as it is understood that it works merely as an indicator of the albums popularity.

I agree with above, TOOL is rubbish, and would only add that no rating ever works for me, and I can never rely on any. "Popular" never means "good" to me, as fools are the majority in any society, even in such sophisticated one as ProgArchives. 

Tool are a great band. For me they're not even a popular band - I live in Germany, and here bands like Dream Theater sell much more albums than Tool - they are an underground band here.

I don't understand why people would bash them for being popular ... that's really a snobbish attitude. Their music is reasonably complex - where is it written that prog music has to be utterly complex? Being more complex doesn't mean that the music is better (or worse). A lot of Pink Floyd songs are really simple ... that doesn't make them less progressive.

Why do you have to call them "rubbish" or "crap"? Tell me what your favorite band is, and I'll be happy to insult them, if that makes you happy or is what you think forums like this are about.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Tool are a great band. For me they're not even a popular band - I live in Germany, and here bands like Dream Theater sell much more albums than Tool - they are an underground band here.

Wel... Germany has amazing Metal festivals like Wacken and the US has Hot Topic, Ozzfest and Metalcore  In the US, DT sells 50,000-150,000 copies and Tool is a Platinum selling band with well over 1,000,000 sold...