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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 10:35
Originally posted by Space Dimentia Space Dimentia wrote:

Bonzo Dog Band

Y'wot?

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Stratovarius are a good example of a band which I would not consider to be progressive. But they are widely known to be progressive, they are known as a "progressive metal" band. When we consider bands for the inclusion in the archives, we have to weigh all sorts of factors:

  • The music itself - and that includes the ENTIRE discography. It's common for people who are against the band to base their opinion on the least progressive tracks in their discography, and those who are convinced that they're prog will mention the most progressive tracks.
  • Personal preference
  • History
  • How is the band considered on other major prog websites or in prog magazines
  • How do the band members themselves describe their music?
  • ...

 

oh i see.....im really learning a lot here

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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 10:37
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Space Dimentia Space Dimentia wrote:

Bonzo Dog Band

Y'wot?

A fascinating addition for the Extreme/Black/Hardcore genre!
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Dan Swano, ya fools! It's like Rush playing prog death metal.

Amorphis - used to be doom, now is kinda like modern Katatonia with more prog influences.

Between the Buried and Me - could be called metalcore, but they are so much more than that. See the song Selkies: The Endless Obsession off their new album, Alaska.

Death - I think they're already pending, but hey.

Mastodon - Very good metalcore-ish band with some really great ideas. Bot htheir labums have some extremely prog moments.

That's all I got for now, I'm sure I'll think of more.

Oh! Nevermore! Their new album definitely is proggy, and they do enough to be on here.


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I thought this would be the best thread to ask this, am I the only one who notices the prog elements in Blind Gaurdian?
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 12:09

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

I thought this would be the best thread to ask this, am I the only one who notices the prog elements in Blind Gaurdian?

Well, two members of our team of five have already voted for their inclusion.
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Points: 101 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 12:11
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

I thought this would be the best thread to ask this, am I the only one who notices the prog elements in Blind Gaurdian?

Well, two members of our team of five have already voted for their inclusion.

Great, here I was thinking it was just me ;)
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 12:28

I agree with Between the Buried and Me, Isis, Pelican, Tony MacAlpine and Mastodon for consideration.

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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 12:52

Dragonland

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Points: 20308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:07
Mike, I've got nothing to add, other than the fact that that's a GREAT chart you've worked on, and should help me explore prog metal even further....many thanks..
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:15

I would suggest Cult of Luna. They sound similar to Isis, with more of a post-rock/experimental feel in their music. So they would also then sound like Pelican, only they use vocals, and generally play in slower tempos. They go back and forth between a heavy, often sludgy sound, and light, beautiful parts that you might find on, say, Explosions in the Sky material.

Their website is www.cultofluna.com. There are a few mp3s on there if you wish to have a listen.
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:30
I added Cult of Luna ... thanks!
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:40
Why is Stonehenge NOT on this site?!?!?!?!
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:52

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Why is Stonehenge NOT on this site?!?!?!?!

 Are they the most popular prog metal band on the planet? No, but a cool hungarian prog metal band - I added them to the list.
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Originally posted by FishyMonkey FishyMonkey wrote:

Oh! Nevermore! Their new album definitely is proggy, and they do enough to be on here.


If Queensryche is in, Nevermore HAS to be included. Progressive Power Metal.  NWOBHM influenced perhaps, much more progressive and epic than most.
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:58

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Mike, I've got nothing to add, other than the fact that that's a GREAT chart you've worked on, and should help me explore prog metal even further....many thanks..

Thanks! That's what I made it for.
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Points: 31644 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 14:27

Iced Earth

I've heard some of their songs and I think they're quite progressive. And www.allmusic.com concider them as prog-metal.
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 14:34
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Iced Earth

I've heard some of their songs and I think they're quite progressive. And www.allmusic.com concider them as prog-metal.

They would be a controversial addition ... but I added them to the list.

Edit: read the band description on this page:

http://www.progpages.com/index.asp?page=Reviews.asp&ID=1 66

I'm not happy with including such bands which make it hard to reason why they should be included on a prog website.



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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 15:12

You may also want to check out Nile. I'm not sure how progressive they really are, but some of their concepts and ideas are considerably progressive. They play ridiculously fast death-metal, with a few songs in lesser tempos. Talented musicians for sure. Some of the songs have symphonic arrangements, and their album follow some well-researched concepts based on ancient Egypt.

On a personal stand-point, I'm not a huge fan. The constant blast beats and death vocals get old and irritating to me pretty quick, but I do find their lyrical concepts quite interesting, as well as some of their music.

There's one mp3 off of their new album here: http://shop.relapse.com/content/downloads.aspx?MediaTypeID=2. I didn't see any on the bands website.
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Points: 21575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 15:19

I added Nile to the list. I agree that their particular brand of Death Metal is quite unique, but I think that it may not be enough to include them here.

You should check out Karl Sanders - Saurian Meditation:

http://shop.relapse.com/content/downloads.aspx?MediaTypeID=2

I'd call it "Ambient Post Death Metal" ...

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