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chamberry 
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 17:44 |
Name bands that carry this hightly contagious disease. 
one of the bands that I think that suffer from this dreaded disease is:
Transatlantic - 6 epics in 2 albums. my first impresion was a happy one at first but it gets kind of tiresome by time.
now you
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The Miracle
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 17:50 |
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Flower Kings.
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Karn Evil 9
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 17:59 |
I got tired of epics after listening to Tales from a Topographic Ocean by Yes
While the songs are all good, and I dont have too many problems with them, I just have to ask: Why 6 in one album?(if you get the 2 cd set) There were just too many slow moments that seemed to drag. I remember thinking to myself, "ok Yes, we realize you can do 20 minute songs already" with Close to the Edge, it seemed like the song just happened to last for twenty minutes, but Tales it seemed like every song was written with the intention of lasting a long time, not being a good song.
but they still manage to have some amazing moments in the songs.
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 18:32 |
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I dont know about excessive, I like the long songs and get anoyed when bands release mainly 4-5 minute songs, unless these are absolute gems.
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chamberry
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 18:53 |
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some bands know how to do epics that you can never get tired or at
least for a long time. Jethr Tull made some epics here and there but
they never looked like they where trying to impress or something like
it. They knew how and when to do them.
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chamberry
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 14:12 |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 14:21 |
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Is this really a disorder at all?
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 14:23 |
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I like epics,and if they are excessive....well,prog is excessive music.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 15:33 |
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Definitely Flower Kings possible Rush for a period of time caress of Steel, 2112, Farewell to Kings and Hemisphere. Pink Floyd too
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 15:35 |
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I must admit I've always had a soft spot for a 20 minute epic, but in reality most "epics" are just a number of separate songs strung together, so an epic is just one side of a normal album without the gaps in between.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 15:47 |
 Asyte2c00 wrote:
Rush for a period of time caress of Steel, 2112, Farewell to Kings and Hemisphere. Pink Floyd too |
I disagree there. Rush didn't come out with that many epics. Maybe enough to count on one and a half hands.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 16:32 |
Asyte2c00 wrote:
Pink Floyd too |
Eh? Floyd made 3 epics (4 if you count Dogs as an epic, although I don't) out of 14 albums.
A related disease is Excessive Length Disorder. That is, under no circumstances can a song be less than 5 or 10 minutes long, even if you only have 2 minutes of material (I think that The Mars Volta suffer from this).
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 16:33 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Is this really a disorder at all? |
nah. It's just a cool name to fit with the "disease".... or maybe it is . Disorder means lack of order so when they make a lot of these epics they kind of get out of hand or exagerated.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 16:38 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Asyte2c00 wrote:
Rush for a period of time caress of Steel, 2112, Farewell to Kings and Hemisphere. Pink Floyd too |
I disagree there. Rush didn't come out with that many epics. Maybe enough to count on one and a half hands.
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You're right,they don't have many true " epics". The Fountain of Lamneth,2112,Cygnus X-1 Book 2. Anything else? The Necromancer,Cygnus X-1,Natural Science,By-Tor and The Snowdog,The Camera Eye,etc. are too short to be considered epics.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 16:43 |
What is an epic - does it just mean very long song? When I think epic I
think power metal, dragons, knights, and symphony X
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 18:40 |
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I'm usually disappointed if there isn't a suite or an extended length composition on an album. Those italian progsters love to pretend they aren't writing epics by splitting them up into four or five pieces, and that always catches me out.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 18:59 |
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Yes, for sure. After Fragile they seemed in capable of writing a Song under 10 minutes length. Same with VDGG after the least we can do.
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 23:16 |
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 23:18 |
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or maybe Tangerine Dream
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 20:39 |
It's weird that you mentioned GY!BE, because now that I think about it, all of their songs are ridiculously long. It never really bothered me with them, because the songs just seem to work.
The shortest song they even have is 09/15/00 Part II (6:16), and if you count the two parts as one song then its like 23 minutes. So technically their shortest song is Moya, clocking in at an abrupt 10:51 
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