DREDG: prog or not prog?

The Miracle wrote: Atomic_Rooster wrote: emo = prog? Thats HIGH LARRYIOUS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! but anyways... Are you implying that Dredg are emo?

No, infact im referencing what someone said before about somewhere between alternative and emo they are prog

Its mockery, dont take it seriously

ResidentAlien wrote: I'm listening to Orph right now.  It's my second favorite by Dredg.  A close-second to El Cielo.  Orph is as best as I can describe it... Progressive Screamo.  One of the best damned EPs ever.  I love this disc.

    

Yes, I have Orph in my collection too, but it's no prog at all. I hate those screaming vocals!

Well...I think, Dredg started their career as alternative band, then they moved into alternative/prog sound, then they reach a high prog level (El Cielo as an example), but now they're playing prog with emo influence. Just listen to Catch Without Arms. It's not so prog as El Cielo and even Leitmotif. I hope that Dredg will return to their more-prog sound.:-)

Benjamin_Breeg,

well, maybe.

My English is far from fluent, that's why some of my posts might seem dumb to you.

I don't care as long as people get in touch with their music!

And for the record, I actually prefer 'Catch without Arms' to their other albums, mainly because it's really catchy, but all their albums have some great tunes included!

Oh please, I agree Dredg is not purely EMO, but it's a hybrid between Grunge, alternative and...oh surpride, their hardcore sound is also characteristic of EMO.

1. Same of Road: Alternative
2. Sanzen: Alternative/Indie, totally repetitive.
3. Triangle: EMO 100%
4. Sorry but it's Over: Indie/Alternative

And the rest of the album is the same, monotone tracks with almost no variations, a voice that reminds the most depressive Kurt Cobain, nothing Prog in El Cielo.

1. Movement 1: Starts interesting but then turns into a SOAD imitation.
2. Mivement II: Very pretentious title ( Crosswind Minuet ) it's only Indie with a touch of Enigma, but still boring.
3. Trasversing through the Artic....: Anothe pretentious long name but nothing special except for the good piano sections.
4. Intermission: Again Alternative Indie with a touch of Jazz, but not remtely Prog.
5. Movement III: If I had a gun I'd blow my brains, what a waste of good guitar sections.
6. Pinguins in the Desert: More Indie.
7. Movement IV: I thought I was listening the previous track, can't this guy be a bit more versatile?
8. Yatahaee: SOAD plays EMO
9. Movement V: Honestly didn't heard it all, sounds weird but weird is not necessarilly Prog.

Didn't asked my cousin to lend me Catch without Arms because for what I read is tgheir most mainstream album.

Dredg is really progressive. Phileas makes a good point that modern progressive and classic progressive are not the same. Dredg is not emo, they've been placed as art rock, let's leave it at that.
As a side note, they have probably the best vocalist

The Miracle wrote: That hurt, Ivan SOAD don't play emo,  they're alternative/nu metal and I hate them but Dredg are one of my favorite bands. I see nothing emo about Triangle or any other of their songs whatsoever. "Dredg is a band with a completely unique sound. They transcend many genres with their art-rock styles and manage to be one of the deepest and most talented modern progressive bands today. I recommend them to anyone looking for a rebirth in great progressive music." That sums it up well... If you don;t like them, fine, but emo is an insult. You're not suggesting I listen to emo do you? And Catch Without Arms is pure beauty, mainstream or not.

I personally can't stand this band;
just because many of you like this band does not mean its prog, and if we accept this band, then we might as well accept any alt/indie/grunge/emo/whaterver band that uses the occasional strange song title and long song with a large dose of non-commercialism and weirdness.

Modern prog sounds something like Radiohead, something like The Mars Volta, something like Deluge Grander.

As far as I'm concerned, Dredg just mixes together several non-progressive genres to create something (gasp) non-progressive.

Philéas wrote: ^Just because you dislike this band does not mean it isn't Prog.

You must not have read past the first line in my post.

I am merely trying to give the fans of this band some perspective, because they seem to be trying to validate their love for this band by claiming it as progressive rock, which it is not by any definition i have heard, if truth be told, i would classify their interpretation of influences as regressive rock.

I have no problem with people liking this band, but they should stop trying to push this on other people as prog; for instance, i would not give anything by this band to a newcomer to prog, because they would obviously form false conceptions about the genre.

If you really want to call this prog, go ahead, but don't think that doing so will gain them any more artistic respect acceptance.

Atomic_Rooster wrote: You must not have read past the first line in my post. I am merely trying to give the fans of this band some perspective, because they seem to be trying to validate their love for this band by claiming it as progressive rock, which it is not by any definition i have heard, if truth be told, i would classify their interpretation of influences as regressive rock. I have no problem with people liking this band, but they should stop trying to push this on other people as prog; for instance, i would not give anything by this band to a newcomer to prog, because they would obviously form false conceptions about the genre. If you really want to call this prog, go ahead, but don't think that doing so will gain them any more artistic respect acceptance.

The fact that they are included on this site in the Art Rock category (meaning they are considered a Prog band) remains.