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    Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:48

Their frontman James Hatfield founded a prog band "Hatfield and the North", so I think they should be in the archives, at least in the "prog related" section.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:56

Okay, this is obviously another joke.  His name is "HETFIELD", and he has no connection to Hatfield and the North.  And to many listeners, Metallicka is a huge wall of noise and crapola.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:02
Still, you've got to admit that he has a huge influence on Hatfield And The North, as well as other Canterbury bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:25
Abba created prog, Metallica perfected it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:02

Originally posted by Gentle Ronnie Gentle Ronnie wrote:

Abba created prog, Metallica perfected it!

Whatever your smoking its obviously really good

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:07
Which reminds me: what ever happened to the discussion about 50 cent being added to space rock, together with Dr. Dre???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:10

Sorry, I disagree. We all like non-prog bands, but that doesn't mean they should be on this site.

There was a Simple Minds thread a while back. Simple Minds is fantastic band that most people know nothing about (the band recorded Don't You Forget About Me on a whim in one afternoon for a movie soundtrack, they didn't even write it, and they basically hate the song)

But that doesn't mean Simple Minds should be on this site, nor should Metalllica. Bands on this site should be Progressive with a capital P, as opposed to lower case.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:19
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you didn't get that this OBVIOUSLY was a joke ? The guy was like 7 years old when Hatfield and the No..... why am I explaining this ? This is one of the most obvious jokes I've ever seen !!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:24
Originally posted by Flip_Stone Flip_Stone wrote:

Okay, this is obviously another joke.  His name is "HETFIELD", and he has no connection to Hatfield and the North.  And to many listeners, Metallicka is a huge wall of noise and crapola.

 

 

Many people say that, though, for Trash-Metal their music is pretty soft a lot of time, WITHOUT too much noise.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 16:51

I see no reason at all why Metallica shouldn't be in the archives : "Master of Puppets" is practically THE definitive Progressive Metal album, with "And Justice for All..." taking it to the next level.

Those two albums alone out-prog many "prog metal" bands already in the archives, and without them, prog metal probably wouldn't exist.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:04
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I see no reason at all why Metallica shouldn't be in the archives : "Master of Puppets" is practically THE definitive Progressive Metal album, with "And Justice for All..." taking it to the next level.

Those two albums alone out-prog many "prog metal" bands already in the archives, and without them, prog metal probably wouldn't exist.

Ahem Iron Maiden cough cough

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:17

Look, any band whose members lower their heads and swirl their hair around, and seriously believe they are musicians, DO NOT belong in the prog archives. No hair swirling. That is not cool and never was cool.

If they're already in, get them out. If they are not in, keep them out. No hair-swirling!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 18:34
Metallica was only prog from 1984-1988, IMO
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 00:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 00:48
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

Look, any band whose members lower their heads and swirl their hair around, and seriously believe they are musicians, DO NOT belong in the prog archives. No hair swirling. That is not cool and never was cool.

If they're already in, get them out. If they are not in, keep them out. No hair-swirling!

Robert Fripp used to swirl his hair too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 02:54
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I see no reason at all why Metallica shouldn't be in the archives : "Master of Puppets" is practically THE definitive Progressive Metal album, with "And Justice for All..." taking it to the next level.

Those two albums alone out-prog many "prog metal" bands already in the archives, and without them, prog metal probably wouldn't exist.

Ahem Iron Maiden cough cough

Iron Maiden had progressive moments in songs - none of their albums are progressive.

Metallica produced 5 albums that progressed the entire metal genre, two of which are bona fide Prog Metal albums (Master..., and Justice...) - and I'd argue strongly for two others (Kill... and Ride...).

Metallica were influenced by far more bands than just Iron Maiden - indeed, the influence of Diamond Head (the original prog metal band) is strong, as is that of Metal Church, Budgie, Misfits,  Rush, Killing Joke and Bleak House.

 

Originally posted by bj-1 bj-1 wrote:

Metallica was only prog from 1984-1988, IMO

Genesis were only prog from 1970-1975 in some people's opinions. Even if you consider them prog up to Duke, that's less than 30% of their entire output.

But the point is, Metallica were Prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 03:13

You can even compare the simple trashy elements from metallice with the gods of iron maiden...and stating that maiden has not released a single progressive album is again an pretty silly statement....and i also wait to see 10 prog bands that are clearly influenced by metallica on a 100% if their output

And if all those metallica albums you have listed you think are progressive you CLEARLY have a very strange defintion on what is progressvie...but you think radiohead is more progressive than the mars volta and also you think queen is progressive

So i leave it at that, as said before i suspect that your favourite bands suddenly become more progressive just because they are your favourite bands...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 03:49
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

You can even compare the simple trashy elements from metallice with the gods of iron maiden...and stating that maiden has not released a single progressive album is again an pretty silly statement....and i also wait to see 10 prog bands that are clearly influenced by metallica on a 100% if their output

And if all those metallica albums you have listed you think are progressive you CLEARLY have a very strange defintion on what is progressvie...but you think radiohead is more progressive than the mars volta and also you think queen is progressive

So i leave it at that, as said before i suspect that your favourite bands suddenly become more progressive just because they are your favourite bands...

Why has this suddenly turned into an attack on me?

Please read the forum guidelines.

Feel free to dispute any point I make, but don't insult me with this bollocks.

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