METALLICA in Progarchives.
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: METALLICA in Progarchives.
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Subject: METALLICA in Progarchives.
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:48
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Their frontman James Hatfield founded a prog band "Hatfield and the North", so I think they should be in the archives, at least in the "prog related" section.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:50
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you're on drugs.
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Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 12:56
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Okay, this is obviously another joke. His name is "HETFIELD", and he has no connection to Hatfield and the North. And to many listeners, Metallicka is a huge wall of noise and crapola.
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:02
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Still, you've got to admit that he has a huge influence on Hatfield And The North, as well as other Canterbury bands. -------------
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:11
Yeah, ABBA too... ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 13:25
Abba created prog, Metallica perfected it! -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:02
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Whatever your smoking its obviously really good ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Gentle Ronnie wrote:Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:07
Which reminds me: what ever happened to the discussion about 50 cent being added to space rock, together with Dr. Dre???  ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:10
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Sorry, I disagree. We all like non-prog bands, but that doesn't mean they should be on this site. There was a Simple Minds thread a while back. Simple Minds is fantastic band that most people know nothing about (the band recorded Don't You Forget About Me on a whim in one afternoon for a movie soundtrack, they didn't even write it, and they basically hate the song) But that doesn't mean Simple Minds should be on this site, nor should Metalllica. Bands on this site should be Progressive with a capital P, as opposed to lower case. ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:19
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Kirklott: you didn't get that this OBVIOUSLY was a joke ? The guy was like 7 years old when Hatfield and the No..... why am I explaining this ? This is one of the most obvious jokes I've ever seen !!! |
Posted By: Suki
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:24
Many people say that, though, for Trash-Metal their music is pretty soft a lot of time, WITHOUT too much noise.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 16:51
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I see no reason at all why Metallica shouldn't be in the archives : "Master of Puppets" is practically THE definitive Progressive Metal album, with "And Justice for All..." taking it to the next level. Those two albums alone out-prog many "prog metal" bands already in the archives, and without them, prog metal probably wouldn't exist. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:04
Ahem Iron Maiden cough cough ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:17
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Look, any band whose members lower their heads and swirl their hair around, and seriously believe they are musicians, DO NOT belong in the prog archives. No hair swirling. That is not cool and never was cool. If they're already in, get them out. If they are not in, keep them out. No hair-swirling! ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 18:34
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Metallica was only prog from 1984-1988, IMO ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 00:42
Not funny 
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 00:48
Robert Fripp used to swirl his hair too. -------------
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 02:54
Iron Maiden had progressive moments in songs - none of their albums are progressive. Metallica produced 5 albums that progressed the entire metal genre, two of which are bona fide Prog Metal albums (Master..., and Justice...) - and I'd argue strongly for two others (Kill... and Ride...). Metallica were influenced by far more bands than just Iron Maiden - indeed, the influence of Diamond Head (the original prog metal band) is strong, as is that of Metal Church, Budgie, Misfits, Rush, Killing Joke and Bleak House.
Genesis were only prog from 1970-1975 in some people's opinions. Even if you consider them prog up to Duke, that's less than 30% of their entire output. But the point is, Metallica were Prog. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 03:13
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You can even compare the simple trashy elements from metallice with the gods of iron maiden...and stating that maiden has not released a single progressive album is again an pretty silly statement....and i also wait to see 10 prog bands that are clearly influenced by metallica on a 100% if their output And if all those metallica albums you have listed you think are progressive you CLEARLY have a very strange defintion on what is progressvie...but you think radiohead is more progressive than the mars volta and also you think queen is progressive So i leave it at that, as said before i suspect that your favourite bands suddenly become more progressive just because they are your favourite bands... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 03:49
Why has this suddenly turned into an attack on me? Please read the forum guidelines. Feel free to dispute any point I make, but don't insult me with this bollocks. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 03:52
We have been discussing this before remember ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 07:49
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^^^ No I don't remember. I take each thread as it comes - and I never hold personal grudges against forum members. What's the point? Everyone says something that annoys someone else sooner or later. If you have something to say on the subject matter, or on any of the points I raised, then I'd be happy to discuss them. If you just want to tell me I'm an idiot, then get to the back of the queue and you'll receive your slap with a wet herring in due course. Credibility? Who gives a monkey's about that? I'm only here to talk about music. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 10:01
Well we have discussed this before so i really does not want to be dragged into this discussion again...Look i am not calling you an idiot it is not a personal attack on you. It is just that i dont think it will have any purpose in bringing the discussion any further with you as we did not seem to get anywhere last time we discussed this... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:21
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Thanks for ruining my awesome thread. -------------
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:32
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How old is ronnie james dio...i saw he appeared first time on record in 1955 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 16:04
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I don't know, the last time I met him, he clearly wasn't alive. Rock'n'roll never dies! -------------
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 18:17
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:06
You don't want to engage in discussion, yet you keep replying to my posts You don't want to discuss this *awesome* topic, yet you post in this thread Why? |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:07
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That's really Useful. NOT. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 11:29
Look i had not started the discussion really but i have already discussed this with you so i dont see the point in discussing it again...i would just like to point out that you had forgotten maiden as the first prog-metal band. And even if you think Maiden is not a proto-prog-metal band i do not care at all because of your previous statements i find it pointless to discuss with you...Bye and now SHUT UP ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 09:17
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Metallica is considerably more progressive than Iron Maiden. At least until someone forms "Dickinson and the South"
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Posted By: retuow
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 09:47
I prefer "Eddie's Beard" to "Dickinson and the South" ...But Iron Maiden have a better musical taste: Maiden have covered Jethro Tull's "Cross-Eyed Mary" (it was the B-side of The Trooper). They even mention being huge Tull fans in the liner notes of Best Of The B-Sides... But neither Maiden nor Metallica should be in progarchives, of course... ------------- Human beings were created by water to carry it uphill. |
Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 12:13
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I am a big Metallica fan, I think they're the greatest metal band to
walk the earth (even if they did rip off Floyd's Goodbye Blue Sky in
Fade To Black) I don't, however think that they should be added to prog archives. Yes, they had some proggy moments (Master of Puppets, Ride The Lightning, And Justice For All, all having epic songs, dark lyrical themes, and sound effects and stuff and being sort of concept-y albums) but they are just a pure metal band. ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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