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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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I recently acquired the "Terra In Bocca" CD and enjoy it quite a bit. I also learned that the version I have is considered possibly a "demo" version and is not the original release
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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looking into that..... I LOVE that album... |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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hey Walker.. post if you can the specs of the album you have (label... year of issue and all that)
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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^ cool!, thanks!
Put out by Vinyl Magic 2000 Records
Cat #VM CD 013
year 2000
Prima Parte is 18:20
Seconda Parte is 25:48
Looks like it was sold by www.btf.it originally
The disc itself is yellow and orange.
What else would you like to know?
EDIT: it also says "licensed by Peer-Southern Productions"
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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excellent... next question.... where did you get the info that there is a longer version out there. sorry about the crappy cut and paste job there. Appears to be an exact reissue of the original Lp. Edited by micky - July 26 2007 at 21:22 |
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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I got the info right here in the Archives... go to the album page and you will see.
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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Let me add, that based on everything I have seen and heard, the CD I have *should* be an exact replica of the original album, exzcept for the fact that its only 44 minutes long.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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sh*t.... serves me right for not reading our own site hahhaha.. looking now... |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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fascinating....
Recently "Terra in bocca" has been reissued by Akarma on vinyl, and this reissue also includes a song from their last single. You can find two different re-released versions on Vinyl Magic CD of Terra in bocca: the first one was released in 1989 and it is curiously different from the original LP (total length is 44:11 minutes), probably coming from a demo tape. This first reissue also includes a miniature reproduction of the original poster. A second version was released in 1993 (almost identical to the first in the CD cover, 46:44 minutes length, and probably taken from the original masters). This one doesn't include the mini-poster. checked my copy of it....I have the same as you. Rest assured we'll get to the bottom of this. If there is a better...and longer version... damnit... I want it hahhahah. Funny thing is... we have the latest CD version of it. so why would the 2000 version go back to version issued in 89 as opposed to the version in 93. Thanks Walker... bringing this to Andrea's attention and we'll see what he has to say. |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I see where the info came from.....www.italianprog.com
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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Thanks. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. If it was wasn't for the disc length, I'd be sure I had the original version. Did you notice the timings on the album page? Each part is 23min unlike the version we have. I suspect that the timings are wong and maybe the demo version is acually 46min and the album is 44min. That would explain all.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I actually thought that as well... not to mention vinyl magic is a reputable company... I couldn't see them putting out a demo copy... as the latest (2000) CD release of the album ![]() it would explain all ![]() actually.... I know who to ask.... someone who has ..the original vinyl album. ![]() |
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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You know someone who has an original vinyl!
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I think I do..... he's got a bunch hahhaha. Should have that one. |
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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I will enjoy my CD while I wait. Along with Alphataurus S/T, which is my newest purchase. Edited by Walker - July 26 2007 at 22:13 |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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awesome ![]() but I am confused as HELL ... hahhah read this from GEPR.... we HAVE the version that has Largo Iniziale according to our liner notes... looks like I am keeping this one...and getting another hahahha The most intriguing aspect of Terra in Bocca is the fact that it exists in two distinct versions. The 1989 CD version by Vinyl Magic (VM 013) is taken from a demo mix that apparently even saw a cassette-only release before the actual LP came out. About two minutes shorter than the LP version, this version lacks a couple of sections (e.g. the instrumental overture "Largo iniziale") and has sparser arrangements, with less Mellotron and studio effects (e.g. none of the weird English rant on "Plim plim" or the whispering interlude on "Allegro per niente"). The lighter sound reveals the pop roots of many sections clearer, yet in a way is also more lyrical at places, with naked melodies shining more brightly without layers of roaring guitars or electronic treatments trying to prop them to quasi-Wagnerian heights. Some of the solos are different as well, as is the order in which the themes are presented, and there even seems to be a few verses and bits of music that are not present on the latter version. So while I prefer the Akarma version, this is not without value, as a curiosity if nothing else. Note that all other CD versions, including Vinyl Magic's identically-numbered 1993 edition, are based on the LP version, though unlike Akarma's version, they have no bonus track and do not subdivide the original LP sides into shorter tracks. |
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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(groan) .. I was afraid of that. I wonder how one goes about finding the other version?
The description of the music sounds like we have the demo version music with the album version liner notes
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andrea ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2072 |
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I wrote a long review of the album... I hope it could be useful for you...
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Walker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 824 |
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^ Yes, it was very useful, thanks! Only, my initial question remains. Are the differences between the 2 versions enough to justify seeking out a copy of the longer version? From the quote posted by Micky above, it seems like their would be many differences.
(more 'tron!) Where can I buy this other version and be sure that I'm not getting something that I already have?
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andrea ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2072 |
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The second part is the same... There are some differences in the first part... The original one has richer arrangements and less recitative vocal parts... If you are not a completionist I think that the copy you own is enough... In an old thread I posted the full translation of the lyrics (I asked permission to btf to use it in the forum). If you need it I can post it again...
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